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It was a gamble playing him against Man U and we cocked it up because he wasn't ready.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
I’d have him and Godfrey either side of Keane if we have to play three at the back. Keane looked all over the place getting dragged outside but Holgate would be more mobile.
Keane always seems to have his bad games when he has Mina next to him.
Noisy noise annoys
Player Valuation: £70m
9 times out of ten he is good enough now. Has the occasional stinker, but as someone else said, normally when Mina is next to him. They are just too slow to play together
Blues Harp
Player Valuation: £60m
Mina needs binning, and Holgate re instated asap.
The defence also need to actually start talking to each other during the game..doesn't seem to happen much at present.
The defence also need to actually start talking to each other during the game..doesn't seem to happen much at present.
Pabbers
Player Valuation: £60m
Im not sure I completely agree. Keane gets away with so much, its like nobody can have a go at him.
He was appauling at wekeend, and was just as bad against United, Southampton and Newcastle.
Just not good enough. Great if we are to sit and defend all game, like Burnley would.
Keane & Mina now, are they getting any better ?? Can we see us going into CL football...even Europa footy with them ?!
Fast, good footballers would destroy them both.
Some games they will be fine, so as a 3rd choice maybe.
Noisy noise annoys
Player Valuation: £70m
Yeh, we just need better cb’s
Annoyingly, it’s too soon for holgate and Godfrey to be first choice pairing
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Mina and Keane are letting in two a game, I’m not sure if rolling the dice on Godfrey and Holgate would really be that damaging.
Basically Keane has cut out the massive rickets he used to make, and it's somehow convinced people that he's now good. He's still slow, still doesn't see danger, still never covers anyone else, and still isn't exactly brave. He's probably been our best centre half over the last 6 months or so, but that isn't really a big deal considering the competition. Holgate was looking decent last season. I'm not entirely convinced yet that he's good enough long term, but I certainly think he has some attributes that are useful to us for now.
Pabbers
Player Valuation: £60m
Yea I agree with you. Its like we could make 1 super CB if we did a 'cut n shunt' on them all.
I was behind Mina till this last month or so. I felt he was quite consistant...but his form has dropped off the cliff, and he seems to be always in and out of fitness. He seems to have gone slower...and all of a sudden doesn't even seem that strong!!
Last season against Benteke I think, he looked a beast and soo strong.....now just looks weak, even slower, and never switched on.
It would be good to see what Godfrey's made of in his true position rather than, as yet, make-shift full back.
Hope we get to see him, Keane and Godfrey in a back 3 just to see if it works. Think it would be a complete back 3 if they get use to system. Keane is great in the air, Holgate can bring the ball out and be the more aggressive one and Godfrey has pace to burn but if Carlo does stick with a back 3 we may see a few bedding in performances like the 2nd half v Fulham which wont be pretty but could be worth it.
AussieToffee11
Player Valuation: £8m
This is a good point - Holgate is quite a dominant figure, so you would hope that with some confidence he will be the one that can direct and organise the back 5.
They all individually had ok games (sans Mina), but as a group they were putrid. A week on the training pitch to work it out, and Keane centrally with Godfrey and Holgate either side is the way forward if we are to persist with the back three.
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