2020/21 Moise Kean

[CahillsCornerFlag]

If it's another loan Marcel can go with him the useless failure

Cannot be allowed the happen given how badly we need money. Agreed re brands though, if he does loan him. I’d make the little tool train in our reserves until his attitude changes, would much rather we find a buyer though.

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

Cannot be allowed the happen given how badly we need money. Agreed re brands though, if he does loan him. I’d make the little tool train in our reserves until his attitude changes, would much rather we find a buyer though.

given how short we are up front, and how tightly FFP has us by the goolies we can't loan out. He ideally gets sold or he stays, stops being a sulking child and actually contributes something to the club that pays him an crazy amount of money to kick a ball around. The kid needs to look at PSG, look at the cash they're throwing around and maybe ask why, given their wealth haven't just signed him. It would be the easiest deal in football to conclude but they clearly don't rate him high enough to spend real money on.

 

[tim cahill]

The worst thing about Kean's attitude is seeing Souness proved 100% right about him.

 

[Mozza1987]

The lad has a terrible attitude. Wanted him to come good but everytime he got minutes he looked woeful. Get the money and get rid.

 

[davek]

The worst thing about Kean's attitude is seeing Souness proved 100% right about him.

He was absolutley spot on.

"You have to ask yourself why he was allowed to leave Juventus".

We have our answer.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Remember various people on here giving it large saying how we could hold a gun to PSG's heads for this waster?

We should have loaned him out when the offer was on the table.

I always said they were too big for us.

They laughed at us and said, no ta, we will take messi instead.

 

[BlueToff]

Hold up play is different when you're trying to control hoof balls against 2 CBs.

Yeah,he's decent at linking the play with players around him.

But as you note, bar that 4-3-3 we played at the start of last season, I don't think Everton have ever managed to fathom that you need to get people around your striker.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

The Instagram thing is weird. Maybe it's just a bit of a re-branding thing he's going? he changed his profile pic as well.

His posts won't be 'deleted' either, they'll just be archived.

 

[BlueToff]

Remember various people on here giving it large saying how we could hold a gun to PSG's heads for this waster?

We should have loaned him out when the offer was on the table.

I always said they were too big for us.

They laughed at us and said, no ta, we will take messi instead.

we want a fee for him? loaning him - unless there is an obligation to buy before next July - has absolutely no benefit to us whatsoever.

We'd get £50k p/wk off the books - fine - but then his book value to us decreases again in 12 months' time, when he's only got 2 years left on his deal.

So any loan deal has to have an obligation to buy.

PSG were keeping their powder dry for a reason, too.

 

[Kev The Rat]

we want a fee for him? loaning him - unless there is an obligation to buy before next July - has absolutely no benefit to us whatsoever.

We'd get £50k p/wk off the books - fine - but then his book value to us decreases again in 12 months' time, when he's only got 2 years left on his deal.

So any loan deal has to have an obligation to buy.

PSG were keeping their powder dry for a reason, too.

there are no buyers now - a loan - on whatever terms - is the best we can do, and we can see in the short time he has been back that he is a disruptive rather than positive influence.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Remember various people on here giving it large saying how we could hold a gun to PSG's heads for this waster?

We should have loaned him out when the offer was on the table.

I always said they were too big for us.

They laughed at us and said, no ta, we will take messi instead.

I said similar mate - the only way we have ever held any cards in this situation is if we were prepared to keep him and play him. It would seem we've wanted to sell him the whole time which makes our negotiating position considerably weaker . A loan with an obligation to buy was probably the most we could have hoped for from the PSG side given we now know they were holding back on spending big on transfers because there was a Messi-shaped hole in their budget they were keeping back.

Inter might be interested, but they are skinter than us even after having the Hakimi and Lukaku money in the bank, so we'll probably be looking at loan offers again there.

 

[blueconverse]

I really dislike the job Brands has done at Everton but if he loans him I dont think its a stick we can use to beat him with. I would rather get a loan fee than have this lazy petulant gimp at the club and do nothing.

 

[Shibbywiggles]

This thread is awful. A bunch of grown men hammering a kid for what he’s put on social media which is completely open to interpretation!? This is why I don’t use social media!

Honestly I think he’s a good player but he’s also a young lad who keeps moving to different countries with big expectations on his shoulders. From what I understand people don’t like that he missed training once (I missed work a few times as a teenager too), has a sulk when he’s on the pitch (I think he should’ve looked frustrated when playing for us as he wasn’t scoring enough and we weren’t playing well), broke a lockdown order (stupid, but again, he’s a kid) and would probably rather play with Mbappe, Neymar and now Messi at PSG than for Everton (who, apart from evertonians wouldn’t).

So has anyone got any better reasons to be hating on a young lad?
Football related criticism aside (because he warrants a fair amount after his poor season he played with us) this thread is a joke.

 

[BlueToff]

there are no buyers now - a loan - on whatever terms - is the best we can do, and we can see in the short time he has been back that he is a disruptive rather than positive influence.

How is there any evidence he has been disruptive? Is he the one who tells Allan to forget how to pass or our defence to fall apart?

No, a loan 'on whatever terms' is in no way a solution.

If he goes on loan, it has to be with an obligation to buy or we have no benefit, at all. Because all it does is clear his wages and then we'd need to use those to get a forward in. £50k a week doesn't get you some incredible forward.

So we need a guarantee of an actual fee this accounting year - before June 30, 2022.

If there's an obligation to buy, then that's the only way a loan benefits us.

 

[Pob The Pole]

He was absolutley spot on.

"You have to ask yourself why he was allowed to leave Juventus".

We have our answer.

For context he said it through gritted teeth in the horrible bitter way he often talks about us. It wasn’t some insight into the future via his excellent footballing knowledge. We signed a top, up and coming talent, no one could foresee it wouldn’t work, it hasn’t but I think he will do alright elsewhere.