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Moyes as interim manager

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Old Blue 2 said:
Nobody 'punches above their weight'. Every team ends up where they deserve, according to what they have achieved, after 38 games in the top flight. That phrase is just a media cliché...
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I was looking for a better phrase, my bad. I meant it appeared you was in the company of clubs with bigger budgets and were outperforming some of them
 
FOXINPEACE said:
Yeah their seems to be alot of managers falling into that bracket nowadays. Arsene Wenger as a prime example. 20 years ago he was something of an innovator but simply hasn't been able to evolve into modern football. From an outsiders point of view I thought Moyes had you 'punching above your weight' (no offence intended). Maybe that's tainted somewhat with the failure of his successors since
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Under Moyes an entire generation accepted dropping out of the heavy weight division which earned him a kings ransom for being the honourable martyr that didn't complain, the Goodison overlords ambitionless plan depended on such a patsy.

No surprise when exposed to real world ambition that he fell on his arse burning bridges with his disciples along the way. The clown had the cushiest job in football with no excuse far fetched enough but his ego had him believing he was SAF reincarnated. A tool of monumental proportions
 
marcus said:
It's 50/50 to be fair...

Moyes would do a good for sure, he knows this club is passionate about this club & loves this club....

We have tried Martinez,Koeman & Silva & it has not worked....

We are where we are & need the stability & rebuilding structure in the team to go on to better things....

Moyes is the man to do this job....
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No. Never. Would be pure embarrassment, even beyond what we have already managed to do to make ourselves a laughing stock.

Same could he said about Joe Royle or Peter Reid - why not appoint them? Because they are past it, that's why. And those two actually have something going for them in that Royle actually won something and they are both decent fellas and not utter tools like Moyes.

Everyone seemed very happy with Moshiri's 'we are not a museum' comment but are now pining to be exactly that. And not even an interesting museum; the footballing equivalent of the Cumberland Pencil Museum.
 
FOXINPEACE said:
I was looking for a better phrase, my bad. I meant it appeared you was in the company of clubs with bigger budgets and were outperforming some of them
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No sweat.

I just think it is a terrible 'put-down' phrase, used by media people. What they really mean is: 'I didn't think that team would be so high'.

When your team won the Prem title, I was saying to mates that they deserved it over the 38 games, because they topped the rest, not that Leicester had 'punched above their weight'.
 

atrottel said:
First up, I don't think many people deny that over the years he did a consistent job with what he had to work with (although his schtick was painful towards the end of his reign). His 'transfer skills' are over-rated, though, and pretty much irrelevant to the present-day situation.

However, he wasn't shy about letting people know about how he was doing either. He had the knife to a gunfight routine down pat. He acted as cover for Kenwright over any fan protests. He negotiated with Ferguson behind the club's back (although I wouldn't be at all surprised if BK knew all about it) and deliberately ran his contract out. He then attempted to buy Baines and Fellaini on the cheap and knocked down criticism by saying he never would have stood in their way and that he 'knew how Everton worked'. He criticised Everton fans when they reacted to this.

I also have the suspicion that he is not a particularly nice person (based on nothing other than his latter press conferences, his TV appearances, threatening to slap a female BBC reporter and his agent brother negotiating the move to ManU).
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He was also more than happy to take all the plaudits when we over achieved but quickly pointed to the lack of funds when ever he had a bad run.
 
Old Blue 2 said:
No sweat.

I just think it is a terrible 'put-down' phrase, used by media people. What they really mean is: 'I didn't think that team would be so high'.

When your team won the Prem title, I was saying to mates that they deserved it over the 38 games, because they topped the rest,
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Old Blue 2 said:
No sweat.

I just think it is a terrible 'put-down' phrase, used by media people. What they really mean is: 'I didn't think that team would be so high'.

When your team won the Prem title, I was saying to mates that they deserved it over the 38 games, because they topped the rest, not that Leicester had 'punched above their weight'.
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It is I agree. Bad choice of words from myself. I should've said performed well in regards to budgets
 
Given the way Moyes swanned into Sunderland branding himself a 'Champions League level manager', he'd probably come back here thinking he was doing US a favour.

For someone whose achieved sod all, he isn't half arrogant and with a huge ego to go with it.

He recently threw his hat into the ring for the Stoke job and they looked elsewhere. Shouldn't that say it all?
 


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