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New collective name for ex European Super League members

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artetas_biggest_fan said:
The moniker wouldn’t belong to the six clubs, it’s the six owners.

Astounded by the ignorance of so called football fans. Some get it, many do not.

To spell it out for any ignoramuses, owners have never been a football club. Owners come last. This isn’t a US franchise system where the owner is king, can move HIS team to whatever location he wants in order to further line his pocket (what this super duper league would threaten), and is the first to lift the trophy that the players and manager won.

This week’s protest has only further highlighted that’s it’s the fans that are the club (with players/manager a distant second). Fans of each and every club in the pyramid were being shafted by six owners. Had Everton been invited, Moshiri would have been the seventh parasite. The club statement was a good one (the mention of Morecambe FC in particular), but anyone who thinks Moshiri, a man who quite recently left Arsenal as he couldn’t grab sufficient power, has any more integrity than the six owners in question, I have a bridge to sell you (second time this week I’ve used that line).
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I would argue that the behavior of the clubs' fans, particularly the ones in the media, over the years helped convince the owners that the fans would fall in line.

I think it's worth pointing out that fan outrage probably didn't do a darned thing, however the owners try to spin it. The government's threat to withhold work permits, on the other hand...

Yes, I realize that the government probably would not have acted without the universal outrage. All that I'm saying is that the history of American sports, with its serial outrages and laissez fair government, suggest that the fans have limited power to affect the club without the government's backing.
 
Carlito said:
Exactly. They just make it up as they go along.

Even from a 'What have you done for me lately?' standpoint, Leicester should be considered more prestigious than Tottenham.
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Even with the "Big 5" from the 80's I never really understood why Spurs were in that list. Yeah they have won a bunch of cups but so what? 2 league titles shouldn't be classed as big.

I'm not one of those who clings on to the big club thing, we are no longer a big club in the grand scheme of things, and Chelsea and Manchester City obviously are these days, the have won stuff, have big fanbases now and a notoriety that comes with being one of the bigger clubs.

Spurs have none of this. They never have. We are bigger than them by any real metric, I would put Villa up with them, maybe even Leeds but their recent relegations take them down a peg or two.
 

artetas_biggest_fan said:
The moniker wouldn’t belong to the six clubs, it’s the six owners.

Astounded by the ignorance of so called football fans. Some get it, many do not.

To spell it out for any ignoramuses, owners have never been a football club. Owners come last. This isn’t a US franchise system where the owner is king, can move HIS team to whatever location he wants in order to further line his pocket (what this super duper league would threaten), and is the first to lift the trophy that the players and manager won.

This week’s protest has only further highlighted that’s it’s the fans that are the club (with players/manager a distant second). Fans of each and every club in the pyramid were being shafted by six owners. Had Everton been invited, Moshiri would have been the seventh parasite. The club statement was a good one (the mention of Morecambe FC in particular), but anyone who thinks Moshiri, a man who quite recently left Arsenal as he couldn’t grab sufficient power, has any more integrity than the six owners in question, I have a bridge to sell you (second time this week I’ve used that line).
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If fans who never step on the pitch and play want to bask in the reflected glory of the players that do then they can bask in the reflective shame of the decisions the clubs owners make. You can't pick and choose when you wear the particular brand of excessive coach smashing, wankbuddha fandom.

A few months back it was moneyball magic and you'd already brushed attempted ticket price hikes and Project Big Picture under the carpet because there was a PL title and European pot on the shelf.

You all couldn't wait to redefine those blatant financial attacks on their consumers as understandable mistakes in an otherwise enriching cultural journey for FSG, enthusiastically projecting the "dismeenzmoor" cultdom onto them as an example of how "massive" the "family" was and how it's took these hard-nosed businessmen and turned them into boss redmen who totally get it now....until they don't....again.

The same way you all looked the other way as the previous owners took a huge swathe of a traditional working class neighbourhood and deliberately ran it into the ground because LFC wanted to squeeze more tourists into the pit.
 
artetas_biggest_fan said:
The moniker wouldn’t belong to the six clubs, it’s the six owners.

Astounded by the ignorance of so called football fans. Some get it, many do not.

To spell it out for any ignoramuses, owners have never been a football club. Owners come last. This isn’t a US franchise system where the owner is king, can move HIS team to whatever location he wants in order to further line his pocket (what this super duper league would threaten), and is the first to lift the trophy that the players and manager won.

This week’s protest has only further highlighted that’s it’s the fans that are the club (with players/manager a distant second). Fans of each and every club in the pyramid were being shafted by six owners. Had Everton been invited, Moshiri would have been the seventh parasite. The club statement was a good one (the mention of Morecambe FC in particular), but anyone who thinks Moshiri, a man who quite recently left Arsenal as he couldn’t grab sufficient power, has any more integrity than the six owners in question, I have a bridge to sell you (second time this week I’ve used that line).
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Get tae phuck.
 

I wouldn’t call them anything.

Sky attaching these labels to them is what birthed this sense of entitlement in t’ first place.

Even applying a pejorative collective noun to describe them will cement a sense of otherness and increase their sense of bravado.
 
Martin Alvito said:
I would argue that the behavior of the clubs' fans, particularly the ones in the media, over the years helped convince the owners that the fans would fall in line.

I think it's worth pointing out that fan outrage probably didn't do a darned thing, however the owners try to spin it. The government's threat to withhold work permits, on the other hand...

Yes, I realize that the government probably would not have acted without the universal outrage. All that I'm saying is that the history of American sports, with its serial outrages and laissez fair government, suggest that the fans have limited power to affect the club without the government's backing.
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A good general point but I feel United fans don‘t fit into this category.

They have detested Glaziers from the getgo....even when they were winning European and domestic titles.

And were never shy about letting them know it.

The RS on the other hand.....the only complaint they have about John Henry is he ain’t rich enough.

They still have wet dreams at the thoughts of some potentate fron the Middle East sinking his petrol dollars into Mordor.
 
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