New Everton Manager

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Ffs

 

[Bob Latchford]

No I get that but Arsenal have been on the slide for a very long time now. He was there, what, a year? That time seems to be the anomaly in his career more than anything.

State of the team he won the Europa league with. It was a whos who of nearly men.

He’s an absolute ringer for the butler in Mr Deeds as well.

 

[Papa Shango]

A wildcard name, and probably massively unpopular would be Wenger. It’s not as though Moshiri and Usmanov don’t have his phone number. He’s proven class (regardless of what moronic Arsenal fans say), good in cups and consistent in the league. If nothing else he’d set a baseline for us of passing football throughout the club and might professionalise some aspects of the squad. Would he be fully behind Everton, maybe not, but I think he’s itching to get back in the game, he’d want to work with Moshiri and Usmanov again, he’s got far more pride than Koeman Silva or Ancelotti had in producing good football for us. He’d perhaps also be immune to the lure of top clubs presumably having turned down most of them at one point or another since leaving Arsenal. Do I think it would happen? No. Is he miles better than the majority of the candidates we’re looking at. Yes.

He is 71! Also has quite a decent job with FIFA or UEFA or whoever it is. A couple of years ago maybe but he is done.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Ive honestly no idea at this point mate. I wanted a manager who would be fully engaged with the project and we could build moving forward with. I thought Carlo was that person but look how quickly his commitment went when tested. I’d love to say Sarri or Conte, both opposite ends of the spectrum style wise but how confident would I be that they wouldn’t do either a Carlo or a Koeman and jump ship at the first sign of a vacancy at a CL club? Not very.

I think Potter would be very interesting if he had another season under his belt at Brighton and showed he could buy int he transfer window and also move them up to mid table. It’s a huge risk at the moment taking a manager who will have shown no loyalty to Brighton, or that he can buy decent players, or get year on year improvement. It effectively could be Marco Silva all over again.

Which leaves this middle layer of Santo, Moyes, Benitez. All tried and trusted in the PL, none particularly that inspiring. Would I take a season or two of them sweeping the decks and getting us back into Europe? At this point probably because we’ve been a basket case for years. We’d then be infinitely more attractive to a world class manager who doesn’t have to build from a bottom half team. Would I enjoy any of their football that much? Apart from some games at home under Moyes probably not. Benitez might be a threat in the cups I suppose.

If I was Brands or Moshiri I’d love us to show the ambition we did when we took Koeman from Southampton. If Bielsa was their number one target for example then give him the 11 million we gave Ancelotti and see if it tests his resolve, likewise Emery, likewise Enrique etc. Rather than just scouring who is available it would be good to see us identify who our actual top target is and just pay what it takes to get them in.

A wildcard name, and probably massively unpopular would be Wenger. It’s not as though Moshiri and Usmanov don’t have his phone number. He’s proven class (regardless of what moronic Arsenal fans say), good in cups and consistent in the league. If nothing else he’d set a baseline for us of passing football throughout the club and might professionalise some aspects of the squad. Would he be fully behind Everton, maybe not, but I think he’s itching to get back in the game, he’d want to work with Moshiri and Usmanov again, he’s got far more pride than Koeman Silva or Ancelotti had in producing good football for us. He’d perhaps also be immune to the lure of top clubs presumably having turned down most of them at one point or another since leaving Arsenal. Do I think it would happen? No. Is he miles better than the majority of the candidates we’re looking at. Yes.

The more the days pass the more I want to give a punt on Zidane even though it would be a risk. Failing that Sarri or even Favre would be worth a look at although I think like many he would potentially overlook the physicality and defensive solidity thats needed to succeed in the Premier League (I think like Martinez and Silva thats where Potter falls down as seems to drop a lot of points from winning positions by continuing to play attacking football instead of sitting back on the counter).

I agree in that I think the current available managers Conte aside are hardly inspiring I would rather us do what Real have done to us and flex our muscles and go for a Biesla/Kovac who's already at a club.

 

[PhilM]

there seems to be a lot of potter interest, understandably so if youre an XG advocate.

but the thing is potter has undershot his XG in his last 3 seasons now, so its pretty safe to say that the XG models miss something in his system:

20/21 understat xpos 5th, actual pos 16th, 20 points short of xpts
19/20 understat xpos 13th, actual pos 15th, 7 points short of xpts
18/19 infogol xpos 5th, actual pos 10th

and he isnt a one off example. it obviously misses something in simeones system too:

athleti last 5 seasons off understat:

xpos 5 actual pos 1 ( 20 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3
xpos 5 actual pos 2 ( 16 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 2 ( 17pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3 ( 9 pts over xpts )

and theres others too, dyche is another example

so would you say XG models, which are still relatively new, still have some flaws and dont catch everything quite right? or do you believe that some managers are just always lucky, and some are always unlucky?

as ( generally ) a sane. logical person, i find it really difficult to believe the latter.

and if XG didnt exist, would anyone be saying potter?

 

[Exeter_Gently]

there seems to be a lot of potter interest, understandably so if youre an XG advocate.

but the thing is potter has undershot his XG in his last 3 seasons now, so its pretty safe to say that the XG models miss something in his system:

20/21 understat xpos 5th, actual pos 16th, 20 points short of xpts
19/20 understat xpos 13th, actual pos 15th, 7 points short of xpts
18/19 infogol xpos 5th, actual pos 10th

and he isnt a one off example. it obviously misses something in simeones system too:

athleti last 5 seasons off understat:

xpos 5 actual pos 1 ( 20 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3
xpos 5 actual pos 2 ( 16 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 2 ( 17pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3 ( 9 pts over xpts )

and theres others too, dyche is another example

so would you say XG models, which are still relatively new, still have some flaws and dont catch everything quite right? or do you believe that some managers are just always lucky, and some are always unlucky?

as ( generally ) a sane. logical person, i find it really difficult to believe the latter.

and if XG didnt exist, would anyone be saying potter?

Sweet Jesus

 

[urquattro]

Sol Campbell is available?.

 

[zukai12_]

If we get Loew we may as well liquidate

 

[Egil Olsen]

there seems to be a lot of potter interest, understandably so if youre an XG advocate.

but the thing is potter has undershot his XG in his last 3 seasons now, so its pretty safe to say that the XG models miss something in his system:

20/21 understat xpos 5th, actual pos 16th, 20 points short of xpts
19/20 understat xpos 13th, actual pos 15th, 7 points short of xpts
18/19 infogol xpos 5th, actual pos 10th

and he isnt a one off example. it obviously misses something in simeones system too:

athleti last 5 seasons off understat:

xpos 5 actual pos 1 ( 20 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3
xpos 5 actual pos 2 ( 16 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 2 ( 17pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3 ( 9 pts over xpts )

and theres others too, dyche is another example

so would you say XG models, which are still relatively new, still have some flaws and dont catch everything quite right? or do you believe that some managers are just always lucky, and some are always unlucky?

as ( generally ) a sane. logical person, i find it really difficult to believe the latter.

and if XG didnt exist, would anyone be saying potter?

Of course, Xg does not capture all variables, as with most quantitative analyzes. In some leagues, shots are a more accurate predictor than Xg, but not in the major leagues. However, it is not perfect. Many of the top teams usually do a little better than expected, and part of the explanation is that they have players who perform better than expected.

But when it comes to the assessment of Potter, it is not only Xg that is included in the assessment, but also a qualitative assessment. Brighton is a team that is well organized, creates relatively many chances, and has relatively few chances against. In addition, Brighton were a rather gray team under Houghton, who took very little risk in their game, and who had a rather "primitive" approach.

The transformation Potter has done with Brighton is very good, at least as most neutral supporters see it, and their own fans. Furthermore, Potter did exactly the same in Østersund and in Swansea, and has built solid teams based on small resources.

Personally, I do not know which manager I want, but I know I want a manager who is far more proactive than the managers we have had.

 

[Bob Latchford]

I thought Paolo Fonseca had a bit more pedigree than he has.

it’s going to be Eddie Howe isn’t it?

 

[AndyC]

there seems to be a lot of potter interest, understandably so if youre an XG advocate.

but the thing is potter has undershot his XG in his last 3 seasons now, so its pretty safe to say that the XG models miss something in his system:

20/21 understat xpos 5th, actual pos 16th, 20 points short of xpts
19/20 understat xpos 13th, actual pos 15th, 7 points short of xpts
18/19 infogol xpos 5th, actual pos 10th

and he isnt a one off example. it obviously misses something in simeones system too:

athleti last 5 seasons off understat:

xpos 5 actual pos 1 ( 20 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3
xpos 5 actual pos 2 ( 16 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 2 ( 17pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3 ( 9 pts over xpts )

and theres others too, dyche is another example

so would you say XG models, which are still relatively new, still have some flaws and dont catch everything quite right? or do you believe that some managers are just always lucky, and some are always unlucky?

as ( generally ) a sane. logical person, i find it really difficult to believe the latter.

and if XG didnt exist, would anyone be saying potter?

I don't know whether to give this post a warning or applaud.
I'd applaud if I understood it... and agreed.

Perhaps a warning would be harsh, as without a degree in applied mathematics I might be doing him a terrible injustice

 

[nsno-chris]

there seems to be a lot of potter interest, understandably so if youre an XG advocate.

but the thing is potter has undershot his XG in his last 3 seasons now, so its pretty safe to say that the XG models miss something in his system:

20/21 understat xpos 5th, actual pos 16th, 20 points short of xpts
19/20 understat xpos 13th, actual pos 15th, 7 points short of xpts
18/19 infogol xpos 5th, actual pos 10th

and he isnt a one off example. it obviously misses something in simeones system too:

athleti last 5 seasons off understat:

xpos 5 actual pos 1 ( 20 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3
xpos 5 actual pos 2 ( 16 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 2 ( 17pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3 ( 9 pts over xpts )

and theres others too, dyche is another example

so would you say XG models, which are still relatively new, still have some flaws and dont catch everything quite right? or do you believe that some managers are just always lucky, and some are always unlucky?

as ( generally ) a sane. logical person, i find it really difficult to believe the latter.

and if XG didnt exist, would anyone be saying potter?

I would give you -300XG rep for writing this

 

[Drico]

Loew's record at club level is poor and hasn't managed at that level for about 20 years. It would be a very risky one.

It would - but glamorous. And the Mosh loves his bling.

 

[Leylo]

there seems to be a lot of potter interest, understandably so if youre an XG advocate.

but the thing is potter has undershot his XG in his last 3 seasons now, so its pretty safe to say that the XG models miss something in his system:

20/21 understat xpos 5th, actual pos 16th, 20 points short of xpts
19/20 understat xpos 13th, actual pos 15th, 7 points short of xpts
18/19 infogol xpos 5th, actual pos 10th

and he isnt a one off example. it obviously misses something in simeones system too:

athleti last 5 seasons off understat:

xpos 5 actual pos 1 ( 20 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3
xpos 5 actual pos 2 ( 16 pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 2 ( 17pts over xpts )
xpos 3 actual pos 3 ( 9 pts over xpts )

and theres others too, dyche is another example

so would you say XG models, which are still relatively new, still have some flaws and dont catch everything quite right? or do you believe that some managers are just always lucky, and some are always unlucky?

as ( generally ) a sane. logical person, i find it really difficult to believe the latter.

and if XG didnt exist, would anyone be saying potter?

Be saying wtf, paracetamol needed

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Loew's record at club level is poor and hasn't managed at that level for about 20 years. It would be a very risky one.

Also he scratches his plums on the sideline and sniffs it.... That's all we need.