New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[PeregrineT]

They are having there worst season in decades and will probably finish outside the top 10 for the first time in over 30 years.

But they are the 4th hottest team in Serie A(10 points in last 5), and just beat Lazio. They are now 5 points off of 7th and climbing, it doesnt seem very likely they finish below 8th.

 

[Infernus]

But they are the 4th hottest team in Serie A(10 points in last 5), and just beat Lazio. They are now 5 points off of 7th and climbing, it doesnt seem very likely they finish below 8th.

I wouldn’t at all mind a little wobble every now and then if we’d already won a European trophy under them, and got to another European final. All in all their time at Roma has been positive, and unlike us Roma are in absolutely no danger of relegation, just having a bad season.

 

[blueboy72]

It's a loaded stat because he hasn't lost 16 games.

He came in after two of the worst Everton managers ever plus the worst board EVER then add a point deduction.

Don't get me wrong I am not a Dyche fan but you're a fool if you can't appreciate what he has done for the club despite this current season.

We definitely would have been relegated and most definitely crashed into adminstration so thank your stars it didn't come to that.

One of them worst managers ever also kept us up, and dyche has a very similar win percentage as them worst two managers ever, maybe it’s three worst managers ever he relegated Burnley twice and he could relegate us this season quite easily.

 

[blueboy72]

I know but our new owners have just got there and don't have a full time board in place.

We need a CEO, decision on Director of Football and a decision on the manager in that order otherwise it's all going a bit Moshiri.

I'll repeat AGAIN I don't want him here but I want this club to be run correctly and better so rather jump the gun and sack him day one, let the billionaire business guys get their house in order so we can sort ours.

Dyche WILL be gone but it won't be this week

Thelwell is staying, dyche ain’t

 

[jpr]

Prior to this season, Dyche has done well. It's a fact.

He kept us up TWICE (not personally obviously) but he has contributed to us not being relegated and administration.

Our expectations was survival and he did it. Don't start being a Eighties Eddie wanting Kev the Rat and Sharpie because this club was on the cusp of being destroyed.

So yeah he has done well

But he’s undone it all this season so not sure you can say he’s done well.

 

[brieverton]

Would be misguided to give Dyche more time. What is it likely to achieve?

Some time till the next league match to give a replacement time to assess everything and engage on any moves in the market.

This week is the opportunity when supposedly Friedkin is in town.

 

[Moomin]

Yes, they’ve had five managers since taking over Roma. But let’s not confuse adaptability with incompetence. Football is not static, and circumstances often force changes. Friedkin didn’t inherit a perfect setup at Roma—they came into a club with structural issues and a fanbase demanding immediate results. Each managerial change reflected their willingness to course-correct and find the best fit for their vision. That’s not a failure; that’s pragmatism.

Take Mourinho as an example. He wasn’t just a random name—they identified someone who could deliver stability and trophies. And guess what? He delivered Roma’s first European trophy in decades. Not every manager works out long-term, but the fact that Friedkin keeps trying until they get it right is a sign of ambition, not failure. You might laugh at five managers, but I’d rather see that than an owner who sticks with a bad choice out of stubbornness or lack of vision.

Here’s the thing: spotting a good manager doesn’t mean they’ll stay forever. Football isn’t a one-size-fits-all sport. A manager who works for one phase of a project might not work for the next, and Friedkin has shown they’re not afraid to make those tough calls. That’s what good leadership looks like—adapting to the needs of the club, not clinging to outdated plans.

At Everton, where poor decisions have dragged us into this mess, we need owners who will take bold steps to fix things. Five managers at Roma might sound like a lot, but wouldn’t you rather have owners who are willing to learn and improve, instead of doubling down on bad decisions? If anything, their track record shows they’ll do what it takes to get it right—and that’s exactly what we need right now.

I'm going to be totally honest and say I have no idea how the TFG will do at Everton.

But, I also know saying stuff like " They know how to pick a good manager " and " I like there longterm vision " is being ultra positive.

Ranieri has steadied the ship but at his age, he is just a stop gap in the same way as Fat Sam was for us a few years back.

3 different managers in a season doesn't scream out to me " They can pick a good manager " or " I like there longterm vision " seems a little choatic to me.

If that happens here the fanbase won't be applauding them for there great manager choices or longterm vision of spending millions upon millions changing managers every quarter.

 

[Bluewolf]

But because we made changes when our options were restricted we found ourselves in a cycle of short term appointments that just made each job more difficult than the last. Eight years on from the appointment of Allardyce we still haven't started our long-term strategy.
Constantly changing managers at inopportune times is what will eventually get us relegated, wheather it's Dyche or the next short term fix.

Thats because we keep hiring crap managers. Because the owner and board were pathetic charlatans.

Hire a good manager and we'll be good.

Hire another dyche and we'll be back here in a year. Plenty of good managers are brought in mid season. We just need to do our research and be ambitious about who we want to hire. No more relegation fodder managers.

 

[davek]

I think our policy of mid season changes when our backs are against the wall is more likely to get us relegated in the long run than holding our nerve until the end of the season when we can make a more measured decision.
How long is it before we are giving the last three months to the likes of Jesse Marsch or Remmi Garde.
Hold our nerve, break the cycle of chasing out tail and come up with a plan.

Correct.

Change = instability = relegation.

Should give Moyes a 2-3 year contract and a chance to succeed. If he doesn’t just replace him but we can’t go on with Dyche.



Look at the league table, then look at it again, then again, until it sinks in.

We don't score goals. The only team that scores less than us is rock bottom of the table.

We aren't getting out of the relegation zone once we're in it.

We either go down as we are now, and under Dyche we're not even fighting, we're just setting up to not 'lose' every single game.

Is that how you want us to go down, like a team that is too scared to even attack other teams?

If we go down, we go down fighting, get rid of Dyche and put in a manager who will let the fans have hope going in to each game.

Clueless. Utterly clueless.

"A team with no fight" that loses only 3 games since September.

"Look at the league table until it sinks in" - yeah, Ilm looking at it and I see a team out of the relegation zone with a game in hand on their rivals and with a lot of winnable games coming up in the next 2 months.

"Get Moyes in for 3 years".

FFS!!!

 

[davek]

I know a few fans who want him to stay too Dave.


They're all rs fans and absolutely love him.

The feller has proven he can keep calm and get this club out of trouble under greater pressure than we're currently under, but yeah let's hand the job over to some unknown quantity because the Kopites want to keep Dyche.

 

[sd_1992]

If they are scrambling round for a board/ceo/dog a month after takeover then that is phenomenally poor planning on their part and a worrying first step.

 

[Bryan+]

Do you use Grok? It's unbelievable how X allows you to create deepfakes with VIPs.

What do you mean pal, that’s a genuine photo.

 

[CJR]

If they are scrambling round for a board/ceo/dog a month after takeover then that is phenomenally poor planning on their part and a worrying first step.

If we want top people it takes time, top people will be with big companies with long notice periods, even if they started looking in September it takes a long time to select people makes offers agree terms and complete handover/notice periods, nothing to do with poor planning

 

[MrGrumpy]

Prior to this season, Dyche has done well. It's a fact.

He kept us up TWICE (not personally obviously) but he has contributed to us not being relegated and administration.

Our expectations was survival and he did it. Don't start being a Eighties Eddie wanting Kev the Rat and Sharpie because this club was on the cusp of being destroyed.

So yeah he has done well

He flukes the 1st year and we only needed 28 points last year, this guy no miracle worker, he done an awful job. We where lucky Leicester self imploded FACT

 

[banno]

The feller has proven he can keep calm and get this club out of trouble under greater pressure than we're currently under, but yeah let's hand the job over to some unknown quantity because the Kopites want to keep Dyche.

He might get us out of trouble but the question is why does he put us in trouble in the first place. Pre-seasons are garbo, lose first 4 games due to lack of prep pre-season then picks up with the very odd win. He has had 2 years now to establish a system with new players but still plays the same failing way. A no.10 as left wing a no.10 as right wing, a left winger as a right winger. Lack of service to strikers. We could go on. 1 away win in 20 games (I think it might be 21 now) 2 home wins in half a season. He is dragging us down and don't think he is even bothered.