New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[Goat]

Moshiri gets credit for having the vision and determination to get the stadium off the ground...but he's saddled us with a debt that only owners with unimaginable wealth (not the Toyota used car salesmen) can pay off for us....other wise it'll be the fans that pay it off over the next 30 years.

Everton built a Stadium, so Everton has to pay for it.

I dunno what business school you went to, but I have an NVQ level 2 and I can assure you that businessmen dont pay for things out of their own pocket.

 

[Clarky cat]

Congratulations, davek is the first and hopefully only one in my ignore list. He is either clinically depressed or here to wind people up. I hope it's the latter in which case ignoring him is the right thing to do. He has 0 useful input in any thread here. He just invents stuff up that makes the club look as bad as possible. Latest messages are a case in point: he somehow knows what Friedkin's are planning to do with Everton and it's of course to bleed the club dry. Because I guess investors only buy companies to do that.

It's like coming up with the idea we are linked to some [Poor language removed] player for 30 million even though it has not been reported anywhere, not even the worst blarg sites and then getting upset about it and telling how stupid our transfer policy is.

And then repeating this day after day after day, many times every day.

He also derails threads when you’ve got him on ignore, shame that there isn’t a facility to ignore everything he writes and everything people respond to him with. The fella is a monumental arse candle with about as much authority and wit as a “do not tumble dry” label.

the Friedkin group are quietly and competently going about the business of arranging a serious football club and business which has been long overdue for all suffering Evertonians who have had to put up with amateur hour ever since Kenwright got his grubby little digits involved. Everton finally look like they have adults in charge in important positions and I personally welcome the change.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Wait'll you see your season ticket prices in the coming years...and the price of all the gear and services they force on fans.

So they will earn the club more money and then take out any excess profits as dividends. They’re shareholders mate, it’s hardly Cyril Sneer behaviour.

 

[Goat]

Let's not be so quick to judge, positive, or negative.

Early days.

Yes, but I see no reason why we, as long-suffering Everton fans, need reminding on an hourly basis that we are a million miles away from being where we want to be.

We should look forward, embrace the new dawn, support the team?

I dunno, maybe im just old school.

 

[Jacko93]

We want a sovereign wealth fund.

Hopefully this lot are the 'Shinawatra' owners and the 'Mansour' owners are a couple of years down the line..

This lot cant hand us the firepower we need to smash right back into the elite. But you be my guest to sup the Kool Aid a bit more...

You want our current owners to have all their funds frozen due to illegal activities?

Seems to me that Moshiri/Usmanov was our "Shiniwatra", meaning these are more our "Mansours"

 

[allen]

Yes, but I see no reason why we, as long-suffering Everton fans, need reminding on an hourly basis that we are a million miles away from being where we want to be.

We should look forward, embrace the new dawn, support the team?

I dunno, maybe im just old school.

I can't imagine supporting Everton without the hope that we'll be competing again any day now...

People say it's the hope that kills you. But it isn't.

The hope is what keeps you coming back, season after season, to get your balls kicked off again.

 

[pfim]

CL football and maybe an Italian domestic trophy for now.

Both are financial measures, specifically CL football.

 

[SonsTeam Toffee]

Did he bollocks.

He left a £750M debt for it.

Keep taking the Kool Aid.

Its not a very stable business plan waiting for another sovereign wealth fund to come in and buy us, given how few there actually are and the clubs they already own. Its the equivalent of me waiting to win the lottery.
So your suggested alternative to the current ownership model would have been to wait in an old failing stadium with little revenue, until a white knight sovereign fund appeared to build us a new stadium for free. Excluding the Saudi clubs I am only really aware of Man City, PSG and Newcastle as nation state owned its a pipe dream that would never have happened.

I think I much prefer that Everton FC build a stadium and Everton FC pay for it, and yes I do include the fans as part of the "club" paying for it.
Unfortunately the world runs on debt, its how infrastructure gets built.
That's also the way football should be run, clubs spend what they can based on Income generated and don't put their history, legacy and the actual club future for the fans on the line by spending what they don't have or waiting for someone else to pay for a stadium!

 

[pfim]

Its not a very stable business plan waiting for another sovereign wealth fund to come in and buy us, given how few there actually are and the clubs they already own. Its the equivalent of me waiting to win the lottery.
So your suggested alternative to the current ownership model would have been to wait in an old failing stadium with little revenue, until a white knight sovereign fund appeared to build us a new stadium for free. Excluding the Saudi clubs I am only really aware of Man City, PSG and Newcastle as nation state owned its a pipe dream that would never have happened.

I think I much prefer that Everton FC build a stadium and Everton FC pay for it, and yes I do include the fans as part of the "club" paying for it.
Unfortunately the world runs on debt, its how infrastructure gets built.
That's also the way football should be run, clubs spend what they can based on Income generated and don't put their history, legacy and the actual club future for the fans on the line by spending what they don't have or waiting for someone else to pay for a stadium!

It's not just an unstable business plan, it's a pipe dream.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Yes, but I see no reason why we, as long-suffering Everton fans, need reminding on an hourly basis that we are a million miles away from being where we want to be.

We should look forward, embrace the new dawn, support the team?

I dunno, maybe im just old school.

Not sure about embrace.

I dont think any new owner of any football club should be embraced from the off. Let's not be like Man Utd with Ratcliffe/INEOS here.

Something I've long shared is a view of actions over words.

June;

... Unlike 777, they have the credentials worthy of "well, lets see..."

Actions > words.

Pointless being so entrenched in a view right now. Open minds - wait and see.

Sept;

Actions > words.

Though a wantaway owner is no good - to have some certainty at the top will surely help.

December;

Actions>words.

I joked they must read here given first line of their statement;

We are proud to be the new custodians of your Club. Together, we will usher Everton into a new era, one that is marked by ambition and professionalism. As stewards of Everton, we look forward to showing our commitment to the Club through actions, not words.

That hasn't changed.

So if people want to wax lyrical over them to give them hope/ambition for the future, as I did Moshiri early doors before I questioned why he retained a failing board/setup, fair enough.

Me? I'll be waiting to see what they do this summer.

 

[Goat]

Not sure about embrace.

I dont think any new owner of any football club should be embraced from the off. Let's not be like Man Utd with Ratcliffe/INEOS here.

Something I've long shared is a view of actions over words.

June;



Sept;


December;



I joked they must read here given first line of their statement;



That hasn't changed.

So if people want to wax lyrical over them to give them hope/ambition for the future, as I did Moshiri early doors before I questioned why he retained a failing board/setup, fair enough.

Me? I'll be waiting to see what they do this summer.

And ive said the same thing, for me the Summer is the first chance to judge them.

So, over to them.

Till then I will retain hope.

 

[tommye]

The fella is a monumental arse candle

Magnificent

 

[pfim]

Everton built a Stadium, so Everton has to pay for it.

I dunno what business school you went to, but I have an NVQ level 2 and I can assure you that businessmen dont pay for things out of their own pocket.

For instance, the sovereign wealth clubs did not pay for new stadiums.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

And ive said the same thing, for me the Summer is the first chance to judge them.

So, over to them.

Till then I will retain hope.

And back to my original point;

Let's not be so quick to judge, positive, or negative.

Early days.

Some of the comments talking them up, to me, are as silly as the ones that are critical.

Nobody knows yet, and that's fine.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

Can you limit the number of posts one poster can put in one thread in any 24 hour period?