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New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

What do we reckon?

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    Votes: 854 71.5%

  • 🤷 | 🧀🥪

    Votes: 288 24.1%

  • 👎

    Votes: 53 4.4%
  • Total voters
    1,195
Damo_1878 said:
The club literally argued it in its evidence @PeregrineT

It is right there in writing. Argued by Everton Football Club's barrister in para. (iii). The Premier League did not contest that figure. Nor did the Appeal Board


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We didn't pay all of that £800 million to LOR though, did we? That seems to be what people are saying you're wrong about.
 
Damo_1878 said:
The club literally argued it in its evidence @PeregrineT

It is right there in writing. Argued by Everton Football Club's barrister in para. (iii). The Premier League did not contest that figure. Nor did the Appeal Board


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You know it was in our interests to include as high a figure as possible there right? I thought you were a lawyer. Why are you so bothered about misled anyway? You are not entitled to any information from the club and they also going to put their own spin on whatever they say. Completely naive to think otherwise.
 
Damo_1878 said:
I never said they did. I've only ever talked about the cost of the stadium.
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I know mate, but that bit of the report specifically states the 'project' by that, I assume it to be costs incurred for the entire project. i.e Meis, ground-works, legal, planning and no doubt other things, as opposed to the actual construction that we agreed a deal for.
 

Damo_1878 said:
The club literally argued it in its evidence @PeregrineT

It is right there in writing. Argued by Everton Football Club's barrister in para. (iii). The Premier League did not contest that figure. Nor did the Appeal Board


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Not really, A. First, they rejected it as evidence. They didnt really believe Moshiri did they,
B. It says exactly "committed" and "to the project". If it was paid, why not say paid? If it was to the stadium, why not say stadium? Legal language is super important and reveals a lot. It could have said "which has to date paid over 800m to the stadium".
C. If committed means what you say it does, you arent being accurate with your own numbers, because you say here its over 800m and Chong said its 100m more AFTER this"It was according to Moshiri £760 million January 2023... and since then EFC have needed at least another £100 million in financing", and you said theres another 60m "As I've said before Friedkin Group put yet another £60 million for the stadium only" so if YOU believed this you would say the number is over 960m.

You say Moshiri isnt to be trusted, but you seem to trust him implicitly here and not believe he exaggerated things on appeal or lumped in/included interest and other costs. The appeal board rejected his attempts but you seem to have accepted them, and there is the difference. Your evidence at this point seems to be purely Moshiris opinion.
 
Kevsleftpeg said:
You know it was in our interests to include as high a figure as possible there right? I thought you were a lawyer. Why are you so bothered about misled anyway? You are not entitled to any information from the club and they also going to put their own spin on whatever they say. Completely naive to think otherwise.
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Are you saying that the club misled the Appeal Board? 🤷‍♂️

This is relevant because it speaks to if people should be retained or ejected by Friedkin and his people. Which is the entire point.

Given they've misled I say they get ejected from the club.

Do you think Friedkin in his search for Board Members is going to want directors that mislead?

I say Chong should be removed and various people too at EFC
 
PeregrineT said:
Not really, A. First, they rejected it as evidence. They didnt really believe Moshiri did they,
B. It says exactly "committed" and "to the project". If it was paid, why not say paid? If it was to the stadium, why not say stadium? Legal language is super important and reveals a lot. It could have said "which has to date paid over 800m to the stadium".
C. If committed means what you say it does, you arent being accurate with your own numbers, because you say here its over 800m and Chong said its 100m more AFTER this"It was according to Moshiri £760 million January 2023... and since then EFC have needed at least another £100 million in financing", and you said theres another 60m "As I've said before Friedkin Group put yet another £60 million for the stadium only" so if YOU believed this you would say the number is over 960m.

You say Moshiri isnt to be trusted, but you seem to trust him implicitly here and not believe he exaggerated things on appeal or lumped in/included interest and other costs. The appeal board rejected his attempts but you seem to have accepted them, and there is the difference. Your evidence at this point seems to be purely Moshiris opinion.
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They didn't reject it. It was "uncontested"
 
FTY said:
Just read that Mark Douglas article

Sounds like there will be wholesale changes behind the scenes almost immediately, there’s no way they’re not laying the groundworks for that now too

Fingers crossed for a busy but sensible January window

Also, Colin Chong intentionally misled the fanbase
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I hope that Mark Douglas is correct and that the "wholesale changes" of Friedkin includes replacing Colin Chong and anyone else and that we get an entirely fresh credible Board of Directors and middle management at the club. For the very reasons above
 

Just trying to lool at it as
Damo_1878 said:
I hope that Mark Douglas is correct and that the "wholesale changes" of Friedkin includes replacing Colin Chong and anyone else and that we get an entirely fresh credible Board of Directors and middle management at the club. For the very reasons above
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wont be doing what he has been doing but would not shock me he is atleast around till the end of the season. To get a crossover between the new board
 
Surely they will want a mixture of people already within their pool in TFG, and new external appointees to make up the executive team.

I'm all for root and branch change but they can't start running the club from day one with people they've only just met.

It will all be new, or mostly new for Everton but I think change will be more gradual for TFG. Provided things go reasonably ok with results then they can take a good few months really looking at everything from the inside out.

I'd expect a new CEO and completely new board from the off but not sure if they'll change middle management and other roles that quickly.
 
Damo_1878 said:
I hope that Mark Douglas is correct and that the "wholesale changes" of Friedkin includes replacing Colin Chong and anyone else and that we get an entirely fresh credible Board of Directors and middle management at the club. For the very reasons above
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Chong will just go back to being stadium manager no?
 

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