New Everton Stadium Discussion

[arch stanton]

This just in... according to a new study by some of the world's top experts, not everything we read on the internet is actually true.

hang on lads, I'm not sure that this statement can be relied upon...

 

[PhilEFC]

the weight of the stadium PLUS the weight of the crowd means that the foundations have to be spectacularly solid.

if there is unstable ground as suggests then the costs will quite quickly spiral out of control..

you can not compare the foundations for a sewage plant with the foundations of a stadium that will house 50,000 people.. totally incomparible.

Sorry mate but that is not right at all.

 

[arch stanton]

the weight of the stadium PLUS the weight of the crowd means that the foundations have to be spectacularly solid.

if there is unstable ground as suggests then the costs will quite quickly spiral out of control..

you can not compare the foundations for a sewage plant with the foundations of a stadium that will house 50,000 people.. totally incomparible.

are stadiums actually that heavy though? They contain an awful lot of empty space over a quite a large footprint.

 

[Frang]

Sorry mate but that is not right at all.

you don't think that a stadium weighing thousands of tonnes along with the 50,0000 people in it, will not require a more sophisticated foundations than a sewage planty ??

ok

 

[PhilEFC]

you don't think that a stadium weighing thousands of tonnes along with the 50,0000 people in it, will not require a more sophisticated foundations than a sewage planty ??

ok

No. I worked for the piling company that put the foundations in for the sewage plant.

 

[Frang]

No. I worked for the piling company that put the foundations in for the sewage plant.

give us some data then mate ...

 

[jayonenote]

What an absolute load of rubbish.The liver birds are flying off tomorrow as well

Nooooooo!
That means Liverpool will no.longer exist !!

 

[PhilEFC]

give us some data then mate ...

The piles can go very deep in creating a rock socket and distribute the weight. There are different types of piles, such as bearing, friction, sheet, and diaphragm walls etc.

The site would have already had Geotechnical site investigations (I was involved in this part for Wellington Dock) and testing in labs to see how strong the rock was, what pressures the they fail at etc. Any issues with the site would have been highlighted then.

Both Sandon and Wellington Dock were backfilled with sand from Liverpool Bay as was Liverpool 2 terminal. Sand is good material for building structures on as it is good for drainage, stabilisation and can be compacted well.

 

[Gilly77]

give us some data then mate ...

The plant can treat 356,000 m3/day. That 356,000 tonnes of sweage that slowly pass through various giant processes. The SBR plant on Wellington dock has a 16 tanks, each 40mx49.5mx6.5m, giving each tank a volume of over 12000m3. Times 16, that's over 200,000m3
A cubic meter of water weighs 1 tonne, that's 200,000 tonnes of sweage plus.
This is before taking into account the concrete 50000m3 of concrete and 10000 tonnes of reinforced bar.
It's not even in the same ball park I'm afraid

 

[Frang]

The plant can treat 356,000 m3/day. That 356,000 tonnes of sweage that slowly pass through various giant processes. The SBR plant on Wellington dock has a 16 tanks, each 40mx49.5mx6.5m, giving each tank a volume of over 12000m3. Times 16, that's over 200,000m3
A cubic meter of water weighs 1 tonne, that's 200,000 tonnes of sweage plus.
This is before taking into account the concrete 50000m3 of concrete and 10000 tonnes of reinforced bar.
It's not even in the same ball park I'm afraid

so whats the problem we are having then ??/

I take it wellington dock hasn't got unsteady ground beneath it like bramley-moore ?

 

[Gilly77]

so whats the problem we are having then ??/

I take it wellington dock hasn't got unsteady ground beneath it like bramley-moore ?

I'd imagine the process will be similar, even if not on such a heavy weight scale. But just guessing

 

[PhilEFC]

so whats the problem we are having then ??/

I take it wellington dock hasn't got unsteady ground beneath it like bramley-moore ?

It’s the same rock mate, the piling companies have got the methodology and knowledge to get it done.

 

[onlyme]

Nooooooo!
That means Liverpool will no.longer exist !!

Good news at last but surely VAR will save them....

 

[tommye]

The plant can treat 356,000 m3/day. That 356,000 tonnes of sweage that slowly pass through various giant processes. The SBR plant on Wellington dock has a 16 tanks, each 40mx49.5mx6.5m, giving each tank a volume of over 12000m3. Times 16, that's over 200,000m3
A cubic meter of water weighs 1 tonne, that's 200,000 tonnes of sweage plus.
This is before taking into account the concrete 50000m3 of concrete and 10000 tonnes of reinforced bar.
It's not even in the same ball park I'm afraid

For future reference 'Shut up Frang' is sufficient

 

[donny]

Good news at last but surely VAR will save them....

They wouldn't exist as a football club but for us.