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New Everton Stadium

Foot Long Hot Dog said:
I was solely referring to the incremental cash that the next new TV deal will bring, we should be capable of spending £20m plus net per season now, and that wouldn't have to change.

Having said that, if I was Kenwright and co is do exactly what you suggest here. I'd get planning in place and have a costed, deliverable stadium solution in place and then sell up to someone who could inject some capital of their own into the scheme.
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I don't think we have spent 20m plus per season. Haven't we had a net spend of around +11m in the last 10 years. I think all our money goes on wages and our transfer money comes from player sales.

We could still manage that but it will involve us selling players in the future to strengthen other areas and that's both risky and not something the fans want especially with these young players. For that reason @the esk is right and a better option would be to get a buyer however the worst option is to do nothing.

That said we are one player away from having a team capable of getting into the top 4. If we got one I would have a go this season and maybe next.
 
the esk said:
Thanks I've looked at the costs of building stadia in Europe and in my day job often compared the costs of commercial developments in the UK and Europe.

The best source of meaningful data is the published estimates of the proposed Liverpool stadia in Stanley Park. The HKS designed stadium was estimated to cost £400 million and the earlier AFL design was estimated in 2003 to cost £300 million.

Based on the above a claim that a new stadium for Everton could not be built for less than £200 million and in all probability considerably more is not unreasonable.
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The HKS stadium was an all singing all dancing vanity project, far above what we would need as a club. AFL had a stadium design with 72,000 seats priced at £290m in 2008.
 
Adversus said:
I don't think we have spent 20m plus per season. Haven't we had a net spend of around +11m in the last 10 years. I think all our money goes on wages and our transfer money comes from player sales.

We could still manage that but it will involve us selling players in the future to strengthen other areas and that's both risky and not something the fans want especially with these young players. For that reason @the esk is right and a better option would be to get a buyer however the worst option is to do nothing.

That said we are one player away from having a team capable of getting into the top 4. If we got one I would have a go this season and maybe next.
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Capable of......since the previous new deal kicked in last season, we spend £33m net in the first season of it. There's no reason we couldn't have a net spend of £20m per annum with the current level of TV revenue (previous periods are irrelevant to the point I'm making here mate)
 
Not sure if this question has been answered earlier but what would happen to GP if the WHP project were ever to go ahead? Could we/would we redevelop GP or sell it to someone who could?
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Capable of......since the previous new deal kicked in last season, we spend £33m net in the first season of it. There's no reason we couldn't have a net spend of £20m per annum with the current level of TV revenue (previous periods are irrelevant to the point I'm making here mate)
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We both know that that 33m came mostly from player sales. There is a reason why. If we use the extra TV revenue for a stadium then there's no extra money so no reason to believe we could afford what you say. I think we need to be honest with each other when it comes to these issues.
 

Adversus said:
We both know that that 33m came mostly from player sales. There is a reason why. If we use the extra TV revenue for a stadium then there's no extra money so no reason to believe we could afford what you say. I think we need to be honest with each other when it comes to these issues.
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The maths show that what I was saying was correct. The last TV deal boosted our income over night by £30m. Whatever went before that point is irrelevant to the simple point I was making.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
The maths show that what I was saying was correct. The last TV deal boosted our income over night by £30m. Whatever went before that point is irrelevant to the simple point I was making.
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But it's not irrelevant and you know it. We sold 35m odd in players right before and the Lukaku transfer was over a number of years. Taking one year at a time distorts the picture.
 
Adversus said:
But it's not irrelevant and you know it. We sold 35m odd in players right before and the Lukaku transfer was over a number of years. Taking one year at a time distorts the picture.
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Are you continually deliberately obtuse or are you genuinely failing to understand the basic maths?

An additional £30m of unallocated, unassigned and unspent income arrives = the opportunity to spend it on team strengthening.

Incidentally we declared a profit of £28m the previous financial year.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Are you continually deliberately obtuse or are you genuinely failing to understand the basic maths?

An additional £30m of unallocated, unassigned and unspent income arrives = the opportunity to spend it on team strengthening.

Incidentally we declared a profit of £28m the previous financial year.
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Not if we use that money for a new stadium which is what we are talking about. You can't spend the same money twice. It's irrelevant what our profit was for one individual year. We could have sold Fellaini and bought Lukaku on the drip for all we know.
 
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Adversus said:
Not if we use that money for a new stadium which is what we are talking about. You can't spend the same money twice. It's irrelevant what our profit was for one individual year. We could have sold Fellaini and bought Lukaku on the drip for all we know.
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Oh for gods sake. The next massive hike in TV revenue is what I was referring to in terms of the stadium, the previous hike - last season gave us a further £30m of annual incremental cash
 

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