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New Everton Stadium

allen said:
That’s what I like to see, some serious precision in coordinates.

With 14 decimal places on lat long coordinates, you’re dealing in nanometres. Thinner than a DNA strand!

(Just doing my bit for nerdery in a thread that was peak nerd during the dredging phase but has since lost its way somewhat.)
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It’s a small bush just right of the railway tracks…..
 
Dr Baxter said:
He's sitting on a gold mine, isn't he? Good luck to him. I'd guess a hotel will be built there. Parking is scarce in the area, for sure, but I'd say a lot of those industrial units on Great Howard Street and nearby will offer parking for games when they aren't open for business.
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I find it hard to believe that EFC knew where they wanted the ground and didn’t bother buying up the surrounding businesses and land…..
 

Noggsy blue said:
Already in dialogue with the club so the drone footage will hopefully continue ?
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Yeah saw the Colin Chong statement, talking about Drones, by the sound of it as the Stadium grows and gets higher, it becomes more dangerous for the workers. By the sound of it, your Drone work will be done on a Sunday when no workers are on site.
 
windymiller said:
This is what I'm talking about. The club's not a charity but what Catcher is proposing means it's not a "club" either, it would be no different to a broadband supplier, an airline or a supermarket. If the only thing that counts is capturing market share or extracting the most cash possible from the market you have then the "club" aspect of the business is gone and it's just a business like any other and, frankly, the amount of value I am getting from the club as a pure consumer (setting a side being a fan) is basically zero at the moment. If our relationship is purely transactional then what am I getting out of the deal? High quality football? No. Successful cup runs? No. The "product" is crap currently, and yet fans turn up anyway. Why? Because this is not purely about purchasing a ticket for a form of entertainment. It is about belonging to something. It is not the same as going to the cinema or to an amusement park. If you do think it is the same as that, then nobody could complain if traditional fans abandon the club. This is exactly my worry.
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Think is a really interesting post.

I wouldn't want us to lose our traditional fans, but do think we have to widen our appeal if we want to be successful. I'd also say, there needs to be a better culture through the club.
 

catcherintherye said:
Think is a really interesting post.

I wouldn't want us to lose our traditional fans, but do think we have to widen our appeal if we want to be successful. I'd also say, there needs to be a better culture through the club.
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I don't disagree (and sorry to use you as an example - I promise I wasn't calling you out personally). It is a tightrope, though, I would hate for us to become like Man City, a club I used to have a lot of time for but who have traded their entire heritage to be a sports washing instrument for a nation state with a dubious ethical record and for whom the majority fans only have as much affection for the club as they do for a pair of Balenciaga trainers. I'll get pelters for saying that but I genuinely wouldn't swap being a community club for any number of league titles and champions leagues. I suspect I'm in the minority, however.
 
windymiller said:
This is what I'm talking about. The club's not a charity but what Catcher is proposing means it's not a "club" either, it would be no different to a broadband supplier, an airline or a supermarket. If the only thing that counts is capturing market share or extracting the most cash possible from the market you have then the "club" aspect of the business is gone and it's just a business like any other and, frankly, the amount of value I am getting from the club as a pure consumer (setting a side being a fan) is basically zero at the moment. If our relationship is purely transactional then what am I getting out of the deal? High quality football? No. Successful cup runs? No. The "product" is crap currently, and yet fans turn up anyway. Why? Because this is not purely about purchasing a ticket for a form of entertainment. It is about belonging to something. It is not the same as going to the cinema or to an amusement park. If you do think it is the same as that, then nobody could complain if traditional fans abandon the club. This is exactly my worry.
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I've made this point a few times. We pay to go to watch Everton and we wish to see good football and/or success, but there can be no guarantee of that.

Football is tribal or even more akin to a religion - a cult. If you buy into it, like many of us do, it's difficult to associate a monetary value to what we actually get.

Nobody forces us to pay our money to the club and there isn't much else in terms of continually committing to pay hundreds of pounds with no guarantees.

It's based on hope or loyalty. As you said, are we currently getting value for money? Not at all. But will I give it up? Like heck I will. If we go down, I'll still be going.

The feeling of being at Goodison with like minded brethren, the rituals and routines before and after, and the tangible link with the club is to me priceless.

There's no logic to it really. Sadly, the clubs, which are run as businesses, often exploit this: look at how they don't give two hoots about the committed.

Most clubs would swap their season ticket holders for the tourist fans, who'll spend money in the shop and everything else, in a heart beat.

For clubs to thrive, there has to be income from the wider fan base, but to lose the spirit of the club by not managing a balance would be a travesty.
 
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