New Everton Stadium

[Blue toffee]

Anyone had any thoughts yet if/how spirit of the blues song may be changed from the “get down to Goodison park” bit? When in new stadium?

‘So get an Uber, or a bus, or train to Sandhills. Or just walk from town….to bramley moore dock’.

 

[brettangellnightporter]

Anyone had any thoughts yet if/how spirit of the blues song may be changed from the “get down to Goodison park” bit? When in new stadium?

"Get down to where we can't park"

 

[The binman chronicles]

 

[Street end man]

Just use "Get down to Bramley Moore Dock" (Runs for cover)

I'd just scrap it for "Now i would walk 500 miles"

 

[James Patrick]

That's not entirely correct due to the nature of Sandhill station, and its island platform, where have two platforms feeding from one access stairs and lift etc.

This reduces the capacity available to waiting on the platform and increases the risk of congestion: each of Kirkdale's platforms are similar width to Sandhill's.

Currently, you have three stations distributing passenger numbers (add Bank Hall), so you also reduce the flow of passengers in one direction to the station.

As I've said before, the projected waiting times for a train have increased dramatically, so there will be an impact. Another station would alleviate this!

As @Davideeyore said, you would get a natural flow of passengers in different directions, and potentially double the amount of platform space available.

But if the train is full at Sandhills you wouldn't be able to get on it even if there was another station in between Sandhills & Moorfields.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Vauxhall Station is required to serve the population of Vauxhall, the Ten Streets and Liverpool Waters developments, and has been part of the medium term plans for Merseyrail for years. It was also part of the initial plan for BMD, till we lost the CWG bid (after it was brought forward due to Durban pulling out of the last games). Otherwise it would've been built.

The capacity for any station is a combination of train frequency/capacity, headways/dwell times and available platform space, for Sandhills the Island platform arrangement limits that capacity. I believe it was set at approx 3k per hr before the marshalling area was introduced, and I think now they're saying it'll be nearer 6k per hr due to that additional space and having controls in place. That is still probably less than one third of the actual line capacity for a full schedule of 8 carriage trains (if that's possible). So more available platform space would only help.

The out of town model was tried at Kirkby and was literally laughed out of the inquiry when the transport plan came under the lightest scrutiny. The city centre based model is supposed to allow 90+% to leave their cars at home.... with the public transport able to comfortably handle the number of passengers (as it does every rush hr). BMD is somewhere in between at present, and really needs a good capacity connection with all the city centre hubs to achieve that modal shift, to avoid gridlock around the stadium.

A certain amount of gridlock will be avoided by not allowing extensive parking within the general vicinity of the stadium ?

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

It seems like it's going to be chaos. At least at Goodison there's various directions you can disperse and get away and the links around the stadium are quite good. At BMD, it seems to be one way out of the stadium and then into town and hope for the best!

 

[PhilM]

But if the train is full at Sandhills you wouldn't be able to get on it even if there was another station in between Sandhills & Moorfields.

That’s not the issue though: if you look at capacity per hour of the network and capacity per hour from Sandhills alone, there’s a disparity.

 

[Goat]

It seems like it's going to be chaos. At least at Goodison there's various directions you can disperse and get away and the links around the stadium are quite good. At BMD, it seems to be one way out of the stadium and then into town and hope for the best!

I said a while ago it would be mayhem.

Spent a lot of time down there due to my wife working nearby and the whole place is a nightmare.

But hey ho, it's to be expected, it was always location, location and what a location it is.

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

I said a while ago it would be mayhem.

Spent a lot of time down there due to my wife working nearby and the whole place is a nightmare.

But hey ho, it's to be expected, it was always location, location and what a location it is.

Imagine our first league game is a Monday night and everyone is trying to figure out where to go at 10pm!

 

[Blue toffee]

I'd just scrap it for "Now i would walk 500 miles"

You might have to

 

[Scarecrow]

The only decent song with the word 'walk' in its lyrics that I can think of.

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

I’ve been thinking the same exact thing about Spirit of the Blues. Basically the same number of beats between ‘get down to Goodison Park’ and ‘get down to Bramley Moore Dock’. Keeps the tradition of honoring Goodison while bringing it into the current times.

 

[Scarecrow]

Maybe swap the 'woooo' with 'booooo'?

 

[SLAVEN BILIC]

I’ve been thinking the same exact thing about Spirit of the Blues. Basically the same number of beats between ‘get down to Goodison Park’ and ‘get down to Bramley Moore Dock’. Keeps the tradition of honoring Goodison while bringing it into the current times.

Same syllables as Sandhills Fan Zone as well