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NFL 2023 season

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I definitely prefer the current 14 team system for the play offs. Only the best 2 teams get a bye, and the extra wildcard makes sure there are a lot more meaningful games in the last couple of weeks.

All those games next week look pretty good. There's none of them you would say a team has no chance. As a Packers fan, I would have preferred to go back to play Detroit, but you never know with Dallas in the play offs. They will be huge favourites but that brings a lot of pressure.
 
Dennis Allen just threw his players under the bus. Jamaal Williams got his first TD of the season from a yard out to cap a 48-17 Saints beatdown of the hated Falcons. Atlanta coach Arthur Smith cried like a bish after the game and Allen freaking apologized, saying the players made the call. If they did and went against his call, deal with it in-house. What he did would be akin to Dyche apologizing on TV to Shipmann for Patterson scoring a 95th-minute tap-in to seal a 5-1 derby win. I can't wait till Allen gets canned, but all I'm hearing is he's safe for another season despite missing the playoffs with a decent team and one of the easiest schedules in NFL history. :rant:

Agree, players didn't do what he said; cut the ones who need to get cut, don't apologize to Arthur Smith. You have to back your own in public and chastise them in private. He seems just to be a weak leader.
 
So true. Starting with the coaching staff.

Agree, but Loomis needs to have a word with himself and stop trading up. It's a drug and it was a reasonable approach with Brees in the pocket, but this/next/year is not that year. In the NFL you don't have to get "that guy" so much as you have to not make roster mistakes. And I get that a lot goes on in the locker room that is hard to see on the outside, but blunders by Loomis in letting Hendrickson and CDJ (he's good, even if he's floated a bit) have not helped. If it's a hard reset I would even consider trading Kamara and Thomas for picks, if that's feasible. I think Thomas only has 1 more year and no idea about his injury status, but he could be huge help to a good QB. Kamara is obviously super talented when healthy, but the cupboard is bare and we need OL and DL help.
 
@SerenityNigh - following on from your previous post, as a casual observer of the NFL whose interest is mainly maintained by some excellent You Tubers, I am curious how you would evaluate the executive and front offices of the teams. My instinct is that the Packers are run with patience and intelligence for the most part, whereas the Cardinals seem inept.

Is success within the NFL similar to the NHL in that it's drafting and developing your own talent that leads to success or is that largely overblown?
 

@SerenityNigh - following on from your previous post, as a casual observer of the NFL whose interest is mainly maintained by some excellent You Tubers, I am curious how you would evaluate the executive and front offices of the teams. My instinct is that the Packers are run with patience and intelligence for the most part, whereas the Cardinals seem inept.

Is success within the NFL similar to the NHL in that it's drafting and developing your own talent that leads to success or is that largely overblown?

I'm not as close on this as I used to be, but you can tell who have good ownership/front offices over the last few years by watching the drama/results. If you have your ear closes to the ground you can see a lot happening, but stability means a lot. Here are a few thoughts I have:

1. Owners getting too involved is generally a disaster, but now you also have owners that want immediate results as well. Anytime you hear about owners making personnel decisions (Cardinals Panthers) that's a warning sign. That said, Jerry Jones is a good owner despite being a mediocre GM. If he gave up a bit of his pride and allowed someone smart to run his team the Cowboys could dominate the NFL (although dominance now means legit contenders once every 2-3 years.)
2. Success typically runs through a controlling coach with a strong run of luck that is given an appropriate leash from the ownership. Sometimes this is as simple as hiring good people and letting them do their jobs. SF is set up to be good for a few years; the Packers are also probably well run, but I don't know them well; the Steelers are historically a world class franchise but not sure if they need some changes; Robert Kraft has given Belichek too much freedom and Bill has lost some of his touch; New Orleans gambled every year with Brees at QB and Payton as HC but that time has ended and we will see if the front office can make adjustments.
3. Some owners are too distant and can't hire good people; I'm thinking J E T S ! but maybe Arizona fits here and let's see if the Steelers can turn this around.
4. Washington have been terrible with a terrible owner but may now have switched to a hyper-involved owner, they will be fun to watch unless you are a 'Manders fan.
5. Sometimes you can tell a bad owner just looking at their photo; yes I'm thinking of Mark Davis.

Interested in what others see regarding ownership; NFL is a hard game and you can't predict luck, you can just prepare and make good adjustments. Back to your question, yes IMO the NFL is entirely about a) front office teams that can assemble the best collection of players, b) coaches who can make adjustments both in game and during the season, and c) luck both with injuries and sometimes drafting "that guy"
 
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Agree, but Loomis needs to have a word with himself and stop trading up. It's a drug and it was a reasonable approach with Brees in the pocket, but this/next/year is not that year. In the NFL you don't have to get "that guy" so much as you have to not make roster mistakes. And I get that a lot goes on in the locker room that is hard to see on the outside, but blunders by Loomis in letting Hendrickson and CDJ (he's good, even if he's floated a bit) have not helped. If it's a hard reset I would even consider trading Kamara and Thomas for picks, if that's feasible. I think Thomas only has 1 more year and no idea about his injury status, but he could be huge help to a good QB. Kamara is obviously super talented when healthy, but the cupboard is bare and we need OL and DL help.
Just realized I wrote CDJ and not CGJ, but maybe Ceedy Deuce is his actual name.
 
Why do I follow the Jets? Out of playoff contention with 3 games to go, then go on to win 2 of those 3, all it achieved was moving down 5 places in the draft.. could have had a top 5 pick now it's 10th.
Growing up in New York, my father was always very secretive about being a Jets fan. Didn’t realize until one Sunday afternoon he’s in the basement and hear “SON OF A BITCH” booming throughout the house 😂
 
the Steelers are historically a world class franchise

There are 2 NFL stats that I find mind boggling.

1. The Steelers have had 3 HC in 54 years. They hired Noll in 1969, Cowher in 1992, and Tomlin in 2007. Each has coached 240+ games and won at least 1 SB. There have been no other HC for the Steelers since 1969.
2. Tom Brady has 7 SB rings. Next on this list are New England (6), Pittsburgh (6), Charles Haley (5), San Francisco (5), and Dallas (5).
 

Agree, but Loomis needs to have a word with himself and stop trading up. It's a drug and it was a reasonable approach with Brees in the pocket, but this/next/year is not that year. In the NFL you don't have to get "that guy" so much as you have to not make roster mistakes. And I get that a lot goes on in the locker room that is hard to see on the outside, but blunders by Loomis in letting Hendrickson and CDJ (he's good, even if he's floated a bit) have not helped. If it's a hard reset I would even consider trading Kamara and Thomas for picks, if that's feasible. I think Thomas only has 1 more year and no idea about his injury status, but he could be huge help to a good QB. Kamara is obviously super talented when healthy, but the cupboard is bare and we need OL and DL help.
If we had to trade a starter, I'd rather it be Lattimore. Kamara is too valuable whereas we have more than enough in the secondary.
 
There are 2 NFL stats that I find mind boggling.

1. The Steelers have had 3 HC in 54 years. They hired Noll in 1969, Cowher in 1992, and Tomlin in 2007. Each has coached 240+ games and won at least 1 SB. There have been no other HC for the Steelers since 1969.
2. Tom Brady has 7 SB rings. Next on this list are New England (6), Pittsburgh (6), Charles Haley (5), San Francisco (5), and Dallas (5).
Doesn't Bill Belichick have 8?..6 as a coach and 2 as a player..
 

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