NFL 2024 Season

[ToffeeTim]

I know what you mean but what are you going to do? Permit QB's to get blasted? Its quite clear that QB's are a lot more mobile and rely on their legs much more than in the past, where do you draw the line?

It's ok for Aikman to shout about too much protection but he was a completely static operator who rarely if ever crossed the LOS. What does he know about the modern QB.

Mahomes had an opportunity to run out of bounds. As soon as he turned back in field then the defenders have to be able to go and tackle him. What are they meant to do? Run out of the way and allow a first down?

Mahomes ran up to them and slides right at the last second. They are already fully committed to a tackle and ended up hitting each other as much as Mahomes. It just cannot be a penalty or the game will be ruined. Either run out of bounds or expect to be tackled - it shouldn't be that complicated to officiate.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Mahomes had an opportunity to run out of bounds. As soon as he turned back in field then the defenders have to be able to go and tackle him. What are they meant to do? Run out of the way and allow a first down?

Mahomes ran up to them and slides right at the last second. They are already fully committed to a tackle and ended up hitting each other as much as Mahomes. It just cannot be a penalty or the game will be ruined. Either run out of bounds or expect to be tackled - it shouldn't be that complicated to officiate.

It was helmet to helmet contact whichever way you look at it

You are saying that’s acceptable depending on context.

Or just acceptable full stop?

 

[ToffeeTim]

It was helmet to helmet contact whichever way you look at it

Only because he slid down right as they were trying to tackle him. They were going low to tackle, as you should be. We don't want people tackling high.

It should never have been a penalty in a million years and everyone on the broadcast agreed with that.

Too many QBs are using the rules to their advantage and the rules need to be changed to give the defenders a chance to do their job. Either run out of bounds or slide early if you don't want to get hit. Any fakes to go out or fakes to slide should be an automatic penalty.

 

[ToffeeTim]

It was helmet to helmet contact whichever way you look at it

You are saying that’s acceptable depending on context.

Or just acceptable full stop?

Context has to matter.

If a player is a runner and slides into a defender who has committed to a tackle, then accidental head to head contact might be unavoidable at times. The defender has to be allowed to try and tackle someone running towards, regardless of their position.

I've seen far far worse head to head contact not called. It has to be consistent and it clearly isn't. At the start of the Packers Eagles game the returner got absolutely smashed head to head while running upright and they called a fumble.

Yesterday was a complete accident due to the late slide

 

[TheBigIguana]

I know what you mean but what are you going to do? Permit QB's to get blasted? Its quite clear that QB's are a lot more mobile and rely on their legs much more than in the past, where do you draw the line?

It's ok for Aikman to shout about too much protection but he was a completely static operator who rarely if ever crossed the LOS. What does he know about the modern QB.

They’re football players and they should have to play football. Mahomes wasn’t going to get blasted there he was going to get tackled. If you’re running with the ball you should have to get tackled.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Only because he slid down right as they were trying to tackle him. They were going low to tackle, as you should be. We don't want people tackling high.

It should never have been a penalty in a million years and everyone on the broadcast agreed with that.

Too many QBs are using the rules to their advantage and the rules need to be changed to give the defenders a chance to do their job. Either run out of bounds or slide early if you don't want to get hit. Any fakes to go out or fakes to slide should be an automatic penalty.

Just don’t allow them to slide at all. It’s quite simple. They’re running with the ball and should have to get tackled like everyone else.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Just don’t allow them to slide at all. It’s quite simple. They’re running with the ball and should have to get tackled like everyone else.

I'd like to agree but that will never happen.

Just make the rules clear you need to slide really early if you want to slide.

 

[mightymoyes]

It was helmet to helmet contact whichever way you look at it

You are saying that’s acceptable depending on context.

Or just acceptable full stop?

You need your eyes tested

 

[Kev The Rat]

You need your eyes tested

there was no helmet to helmet contact?

 

[mightymoyes]

there was no helmet to helmet contact?

Texan on texan

 

[Kev The Rat]

Texan on texan

 

[mightymoyes]

If you give a penalty for everytime a helmet incidentally touches an opponent helmet you'll have a flag on nearly every single tackle. Game would literally be unwatchable

 

[Kev The Rat]

The right calls were made

 

[Kev The Rat]

The fans at Rams Eagles must not realize the pointlessness of it all, with the Chiefs Refs at play

 

[TheBigIguana]

The right calls were made

I don’t dispute this, but the ease in which a QB can abuse this is obvious and QBs are abusing it already. It needs changing.