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Parents controlling children

Designated zones and harnesses for kids?


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I’ve seen some stick given to dog owners on here, rightfully or wrongly, and it got me thinking “what about parents?”

There’s an epidemic of kids at the moment with every couple barely a year into a relationship deciding to churn them out and, in some’s opinion, they cause every inch of social menace or more than dogs do. Except we are meant to be play along that the little shrieking peace shattering annoyances are cute and great to have around.

Just because you don’t want your partner to leave you and pupped them because you either can’t understand the difference between lust and love, or use contraceptive, doesn’t mean that those who sensibly decide to not have children should suffer.

So with this in mind I ask you should there is designated zones only for kids in public and in all other places should they be kept on a harness?
An Italian friend of mine waxes lyrical about how family is welcome in practically every establishment in Italy. He bemoans signs excluding children in the UK.

In my travels abroad I generally see quiet, well behaved children. As a former teacher in the uk I've seen quite a lot of loud, attention seeking, aggressive, selfish, self obsessed children. It speaks volumes about the quality of clueless parenting I've also come across through schooling. But governments will blame schools for behaviour. If you blame schools, you lose a few hundred thousand votes from those who work there. If you blame parents you alienate much of the population.

Kids .... its not popular to say no or "deprive" them. Spoiling them makes up for parents not giving them proper attention at home - they turn into brats. .... Brats need vaporising.
 
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I’ve seen some stick given to dog owners on here, rightfully or wrongly, and it got me thinking “what about parents?”

There’s an epidemic of kids at the moment with every couple barely a year into a relationship deciding to churn them out and, in some’s opinion, they cause every inch of social menace or more than dogs do. Except we are meant to be play along that the little shrieking peace shattering annoyances are cute and great to have around.

Just because you don’t want your partner to leave you and pupped them because you either can’t understand the difference between lust and love, or use contraceptive, doesn’t mean that those who sensibly decide to not have children should suffer.

So with this in mind I ask you should there is designated zones only for kids in public and in all other places should they be kept on a harness?
People churn out kids for all kinds of reasons, most of them the wrong ones. (some have the ludicrous belief that more kids = more status, imagine that! ) I'd be in favour of a child license, and definitely a child cap.

I like well mannered children. You can usually predict which children are going to be well mannered by meeting the parents.

I wish we were back in the days of being able to give the little neighborhood rats a crack around the ear if they step out of line without gasps of horror from onlookers. Instead, you'd get a thank you from the father as he arrives to drag his child off for more of the same.

Where can I vote for adult only airlines?
100%

I'd pay a hefty surcharge for child free flights (though I shouldn't have to, airlines should offer them - just like some hotels)

Children in Business or First Class? Ridiculous. If they simply must travel up there make sure they're properly sedated.

Honestly...... I'm not a fan.
 

I’ve seen some stick given to dog owners on here, rightfully or wrongly, and it got me thinking “what about parents?”

There’s an epidemic of kids at the moment with every couple barely a year into a relationship deciding to churn them out and, in some’s opinion, they cause every inch of social menace or more than dogs do. Except we are meant to be play along that the little shrieking peace shattering annoyances are cute and great to have around.

Just because you don’t want your partner to leave you and pupped them because you either can’t understand the difference between lust and love, or use contraceptive, doesn’t mean that those who sensibly decide to not have children should suffer.

So with this in mind I ask you should there is designated zones only for kids in public and in all other places should they be kept on a harness?
Designated zones and harnesses for the parents?...preferably nowhere near where I am.
Diclaimer; my grandchildren are perfect obvs...well mostly.
 
An Italian friend of mine waxes lyrical about how family is welcome in practically every establishment in Italy. He bemoans signs excluding children in the UK.

In my travels abroad I generally see quiet, well behaved children. As a former teacher in the uk I've seen quite a lot of loud, attention seeking, aggressive, selfish, self obsessed children. It speaks volumes about the quality of clueless parenting I've also come across through schooling. But governments will blame schools for behaviour. If you blame schools, you lose a few hundred thousand votes from those who work there. If you blame parents you alienate much of the population.

Kids .... its not popular to say no or "deprive" them. Spoiling them makes up for parents not giving them proper attention at home - they turn into brats. .... Brats need vaporising.
Is disciplining children criminalized abroad? Is the 'family unit' dissected abroad? by that last one I mean does mum stay home and raise the children or, because of the financial pressure of life the babies born are launched into whatever child care is most convenient. Wonder why kids have no respect? they aint been nurtured. Wonder why they don't mind their parents? who the 'F' are they! Schools becoming gladiator academies, and open gang warfare based on post codes. These little lives have no direction, and chances are now neither did their parents - suddenly the problems are compounded. It takes effort to parent, and this is a spoiled land of entitlement - to easy to not be arsed and just let the sheet hit the wind as and when. Not my mess, not my fault, don't be moaning at me to clean it up...

This is the era of "I'm alright Jack"...
 

Is disciplining children criminalized abroad? Is the 'family unit' dissected abroad? by that last one I mean does mum stay home and raise the children or, because of the financial pressure of life the babies born are launched into whatever child care is most convenient. Wonder why kids have no respect? they aint been nurtured. Wonder why they don't mind their parents? who the 'F' are they! Schools becoming gladiator academies, and open gang warfare based on post codes. These little lives have no direction, and chances are now neither did their parents - suddenly the problems are compounded. It takes effort to parent, and this is a spoiled land of entitlement - to easy to not be arsed and just let the sheet hit the wind as and when. Not my mess, not my fault, don't be moaning at me to clean it up...

This is the era of "I'm alright Jack"...
Well said, this push for both parents needing to work just to keep head above water to keep the rich getting richer is ruining the upbringing and nurturing of kids. But we just roll with it for a quiet life, letting the government and media criminalise striking and workers rights.
 
Read a bleating post from a young mother I know (with around 5 children) crying that she tried to bake a cake but it was burned because one if her children came into the kitchen and turned up the temperature. She blamed the children, just like people who can't train or control their dogs blame the dogs.

My mum taught me that a kitchen isn't a play area. She told me the safe places I could play and somehow I became aware of the fact that there were things only adults were allowed to use ... like cookers, kettles, knives, tools. I guess I was lucky to have parents in the 60s who were quite prepared to say "no" to me and I love them for it.

Boils my blood to see spoiled kids who don't know the value of things and who's parents inevitably call them "mate."
 

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