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Paris Olympics 2024

RomanReigns said:
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Wheaties with extra added oestrogen :lol:
 

TraffordBlue said:
They're not though. Sex is defined by Chromosomes, Gonads (Testes, Ovaries) as well as Anatomy (Vagina, Penis).

Semenya has male Chromosomes and non standard male Gonads (e.g internal testes), but has female anatomy - Vagina. She doesn't have a Penis. She is intersex, not male or female. I also haven't seen any proof from you that she actually produces sperm.

I do think you probably have a point about the running aspect now I think of it so I can agree on that.

As for Khelif, I don't know as much about her circumstances as Semenya and am interested to hear what more comes out.

Think it's a very complex situation for those in charge to have to handle but it's something that does need to be cleared up across all sports and it may take some years for it to happen.
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The 'vagina' bit is completely irrelevant to Caster Semenya as it's essentially useless - we all know what the purpose of it is, hers serves none. It's like a bloke having breasts, they'd serve no purpose. I read somewhere (i'll try and find it) that when she was born, her genitals were so ambiguous (shallow pseudo-vagina) that she was deemed female by committee. As for the sperm bit, her testosterone levels are between 15.6 and 29.3 nmol/L - therefore they're healthy albeit internal.

As for her stating 'she can't contribute to new life' - she also said that her testicles 'don't make her any less of a woman' so i'm taking whatever she says with a pinch of salt, biologically fathering 2 children doesn't look good for her when she's trying to be reinstated into Women's athletics does it. It serves Semenya's purpose to be female as she's one of the fastest in the world. If she races men, which she should... She'd be around the 6,000th fastest in the world.




This probably the easiest to understand read-up on it, it also contains the details about the 2 boxers in this years Olympics.


As for being a complex situation.. I agree completely, however, what the IOC have done is diminish the chances for women in the name of inclusion for - for want of a better phrase, deformed males (sounds harsh - but that's the biological reality)


Again, I don't want to derail this thread so either PM or start a new thread?
 

dublinbluenose said:
The discus was insane, an OR that had been held for about 2 decades was broken by the previous holders son, only for it to be broken again by the next athlete.
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The World Record set by the bloke who came second looked dodgy to me. It was marked as 3cm from the white line. It might be that the white line wasn’t in the correct place but it didn’t look 3cm from the white line. I’m glad that the winner went further to cancel it out.
 
d34noj said:
The 'vagina' bit is completely irrelevant to Caster Semenya as it's essentially useless - we all know what the purpose of it is, hers serves none. It's like a bloke having breasts, they'd serve no purpose. I read somewhere (i'll try and find it) that when she was born, her genitals were so ambiguous (shallow pseudo-vagina) that she was deemed female by committee. As for the sperm bit, her testosterone levels are between 15.6 and 29.3 nmol/L - therefore they're healthy albeit internal.

As for her stating 'she can't contribute to new life' - she also said that her testicles 'don't make her any less of a woman' so i'm taking whatever she says with a pinch of salt, biologically fathering 2 children doesn't look good for her when she's trying to be reinstated into Women's athletics does it. It serves Semenya's purpose to be female as she's one of the fastest in the world. If she races men, which she should... She'd be around the 6,000th fastest in the world.




This probably the easiest to understand read-up on it, it also contains the details about the 2 boxers in this years Olympics.


As for being a complex situation.. I agree completely, however, what the IOC have done is diminish the chances for women in the name of inclusion for - for want of a better phrase, deformed males (sounds harsh - but that's the biological reality)


Again, I don't want to derail this thread so either PM or start a new thread?
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Every post you've posted in this thread bar 1 is about this. I think your hopes of not derailing the thread are futile.
 

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