Pat Van Den Hauwe or Leighton Baines

Pat Van Den Hauwe or Leighton Baines

  • Pat Van Den Hauwe

  • Leighton Baines


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Baines

80s and 00-10s are chalk and cheese

if you took most of the great 80s players and put them in the prem now they would be bewildered and blowing after 20 minutes
But that’s because the game has changed: it’s less now about pure footballing ability and more to do with being athletes who can play football.

If you swapped it around, most of today’s would limp off after a few minutes either because of the tackles or falling on the dodgy turf.
 

Pat van den hauwe all day everyday and twice on Sunday not even up for debate in my opinion so I'm not even coming on this thread again.
 
Baines way better going forward, Pyscho way better defending.

I'm old school - I prefer my defenders to defend, first and foremost.
 
Baines

80s and 00-10s are chalk and cheese

if you took most of the great 80s players and put them in the prem now they would be bewildered and blowing after 20 minutes
If you gave the great players of the 80s the advantages current players take for granted vis-a-vis their time, then I think you'd find the 80s players were every bit as good. And I'm not even talking about fitness, recovery, and nutrition.

Great players are great players in any era.

If Maradona, Platini, Zico, Rummenigge, and van Basten played in an era where they were not subjected to weekly assassination attempts by the likes of the Butcher of Bilbao, Antonio Camacho, and Claudio Gentile, they'd have had an absolute field day in the era of Messi and Ronaldo.

Put Messi and Ronaldo back with those three lads, and see how many seasons they spent on the treatment table...

Oh, and that's before we get to the changes in the offside and backpass rule which, even more than the outlawing of the tackle from behind, opened the field up and made the man-marker virtually redundant.

A totally different game now. But the greats were the greats for a reason. And this is why I have never seen better than Maradona - because, unlike the magnificent Messi, I saw him do it even when the violent thugs kicked him from pillar to post with impunity.
 

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