Pat Van Den Hauwe or Leighton Baines

[Kurt.]

It’s obviously Ashley Young


But that wasn’t the question, Pat for me all day every day.

 

[Eggs]

Both great players, but Leighton just.. And I loved PsychoPat, simple reason Pat would have spent most of his time suspended in today's Football arena. very underrated players both of them.

….this is what I don’t really get with his reputation, I just don’t remember him clogging anybody. I was at West Brom when he got sent-off for shoulder charging the winger off the pitch but you’d never see him go over the top on an opposition player.

The psycho tag was lots to do with off the pitch hard man image. Gray and Sharp would wind him up. I’ve actually just come in from being in the players tunnel at Goodison and the weird thing I remembered was him wanting to sort the big player Luton had at the time but it was only because his mates were winding him up.

Did he actually get many red cards for us, I don’t even know?

 

[hallamblue]

….this is what I don’t really get with his reputation, I just don’t remember him clogging anybody. I was at West Brom when he got sent-off for shoulder charging the winger off the pitch but you’d never see him go over the top on an opposition player.

The psycho tag was lots to do with off the pitch hard man image. Gray and Sharp would wind him up. I’ve actually just come in from being in the players tunnel at Goodison and the weird thing I remembered was him wanting to sort the big player Luton had at the time but it was only because his mates were winding him up.

Did he actually get many red cards for us, I don’t even know?

I think the point is he didn't in the eighties, but times have changed. Reidy would have been sent off a lot more these days for what was considered an honest tackle back then.

To answer the question, Baines all day long for me, clearly our best left back in my lifetime, him and Pienaar a great combination, closest thing in my time watching was Mike Pejic and Dave Thomas. Van den Hauwe was a good defender, but Baines had everything.

 

[mahermi1]

….this is what I don’t really get with his reputation, I just don’t remember him clogging anybody. I was at West Brom when he got sent-off for shoulder charging the winger off the pitch but you’d never see him go over the top on an opposition player.

The psycho tag was lots to do with off the pitch hard man image. Gray and Sharp would wind him up. I’ve actually just come in from being in the players tunnel at Goodison and the weird thing I remembered was him wanting to sort the big player Luton had at the time but it was only because his mates were winding him up.

Did he actually get many red cards for us, I don’t even know?

You mustn't have seen that semi final against Luton Eggs.. Can't think of their wingers name, but he led our defence a merry dance in the first half, until pat caught him slightly high, under his chin !
No seriously top of the knee with an acrobatic swipe of his boot, that winger wasn't involved much in the game after that. He had this way if the ball was played behind him, then Pat used to run backwards staring straight into the eyes of the speedy winger, who suddenly lost his pace and the ball would just roll out of play. Know what I've changed my mind Van den hawe for me had everything, tall and intimidating to say the least. But it's an excellent choice between the two, not much in it for me. I was too young to have saw Ray Wilson, Tommy Wright was an excellent fullback too.

 

[Rita_Poon]

….this is what I don’t really get with his reputation, I just don’t remember him clogging anybody. I was at West Brom when he got sent-off for shoulder charging the winger off the pitch but you’d never see him go over the top on an opposition player.

The psycho tag was lots to do with off the pitch hard man image. Gray and Sharp would wind him up. I’ve actually just come in from being in the players tunnel at Goodison and the weird thing I remembered was him wanting to sort the big player Luton had at the time but it was only because his mates were winding him up.

Did he actually get many red cards for us, I don’t even know?

Tried to find any info about any bookings, can find one red card, for spurs, vs luton in 1990 I think.

Re PvdH, only turns out he married Amanda Louise Smith. So a baller off the pitch as well. Lasted 2 years. She was a model and has a very concerning history not least with a certain bassist with the rolling stones :/

 

[maccavennie]

Too tough a choice, so I've gone for Terry Phelan.

 

[Houghty19]

Given the strictness of refereeing nowadays PVDH would spend half the season suspended so it would be baines for me.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I've this theory PvdH might have been a bit of a referees favourite. Call it a hunch.

 

[toffeeblue9]

My arl fella maintains Baines is the best full back he's seen play for Everton - as far as left backs go, he says Baines > Wilson > Van Den Hauwe in that order as the best three we've had.

I think you can make a solid argument that Baines is the best player, pound for pound, that we've had in the Premier League era and he's the only player of the era you could say has a shout of being in our all time XI

 

[Rita_Poon]

My arl fella maintains Baines is the best full back he's seen play for Everton - as far as left backs go, he says Baines > Wilson > Van Den Hauwe in that order as the best three we've had.

I think you can make a solid argument that Baines is the best player, pound for pound, that we've had in the Premier League era and he's the only player of the era you could say has a shout of being in our all time XI

There's this goal keeper...

 

[Eggs]

Tried to find any info about any bookings, can find one red card, for spurs, vs luton in 1990 I think.

Re PvdH, only turns out he married Amanda Louise Smith. So a baller off the pitch as well. Lasted 2 years. She was a model and has a very concerning history not least with a certain bassist with the rolling stones :/

….yep it was quite a famous affair at the time. He was very, very popular off the pitch with the ladies.

He joined Everton in Sept ‘84 for £100k, small even in those days. He played 46 league & cup games in season 84/85 & 58 in 85/86, hardly a record of disciplinary problems.

 

[toffeeblue9]

There's this goal keeper...

TBF I class Southall as pre-PL given that's when his peak was

 

[toffeeblue9]

I suspect Baines is still the best footballer at Finch Farm

There was a training video I saw the other week and it had Beto and others doing finishing drills from crosses. After a few of them, I clocked onto the fact that they were fantastic crosses coming into the box, but the crosser was never on camera until right at the end. I probably don't need to tell you who it was.

 

[Cake]

Both. Why can't there be both? Baines at left back and Pat wherever he wants.

 

[mahermi1]

There's this goal keeper...

That was the Planet.