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Penile Plethysmography
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Whitebootman
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Less ciggies and smack for sale in the nick, but more feather dusters and nipple clips available for the cons.
Dont understand Neb?
The information would be primarily used to determine the effectiveness of CBT Programmes/SOTP etc.
Nebbiolo
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Meaning the information is collated and some type of psychotherapy is then used, where the patient is challenged in some way regarding his behaviour?
If so, that would be your department as to how effective it would be. I'm no expert on treatment of offenders or the effectiveness of punishment.
But I wouldn't object morally to the invasion of privacy, if that's what you were wondering. I might even ask you whether, given knowledge of what makes serious sex offenders tick, electric shock treatment has benefits? I'm sure it's been used in the past, and probably still is in certain countries.
Well gone in this country.
All about cognitive behavioural therapy now.
Problem is, theres no real way to assess how effective the cognitive behavioural therapy has been, its all well and good someone saying they no longer have fantasies about rape, but how can you assess it? - thats were Penile Plethysmography comes in, supposedly.
all depends on how controlled the subjects were. I should think they would be quite able to mask or mitigate any arousal if fully concious and aware of what was going on. While ethically questionable, the testing would be far more effective if the subjects were doped.
This would negate any concious effort on their part to 'achieve a desired result' and would give a far more genuine indication to their mental state.
It could be argued that the concious mitigation of arousal is what CBT is all about, but it would be handy to know what latent predisposition remains.
But like I said, ethically - highly questionable (the doping part)
This would negate any concious effort on their part to 'achieve a desired result' and would give a far more genuine indication to their mental state.
It could be argued that the concious mitigation of arousal is what CBT is all about, but it would be handy to know what latent predisposition remains.
But like I said, ethically - highly questionable (the doping part)
Nebbiolo
Valuation: £108 million
Ah, so patient X claims that he's no longer turned on by little girls, we show him a video of little girls playing dolls' house and he gets an erection. We know that he was lying.
It sounds okay to be honest. There might be a slight fly in the ointment in that even if X did get turned on, it wouldn't necessarily mean that he would still molest little girls or do again whatever else his crimes were.
I think the best the treatment would provide is an indicator that the subject's sexual imagination is still active. But that could be very handy. It would also be interesting to see the different scenarios that arouse the people we're talking about. At least then, during psychotherapy, there would be the opportunity to discuss coping mechanisms that people could use to avoid getting in the wrong situation again.
Very interesting, though.
Personally I'm of the opinion that sex offenders, or at least the type of sex offenders that we're probably discussing, are best left incarcerated unless it is positive that they will never commit such crimes again. I doubt that that position is popular within the field that you study, though. It all seems to be about management these days.
Maybe I'm wrong?
Unfortunately, its unrealistic to keep all sex offenders incarcerated. Prisons are overcrowded now, at 80,000 thousand (last time I checked), think theres 50,000+ thousand on the sex offender register.
It costs at least £30,000 (average around £47,000) to keep a prisoner in jail a year...
So the emphasis is on treatment and management. Still not cheap though, one programme for a sex offender costs £8,000... and then theres the cost of managing them after release.
It costs at least £30,000 (average around £47,000) to keep a prisoner in jail a year...
So the emphasis is on treatment and management. Still not cheap though, one programme for a sex offender costs £8,000... and then theres the cost of managing them after release.
Nebbiolo
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We need more prisons. I'm all for treatment on the outside for non-aggressive types, which would even include those that have committed violent crime. I think everyone has a potential violent crime in them. Not for serious sex offenders, though. I'm happy to pay more tax to keep them away from society.
But obviously if you're employed in that field, you work under the law and if the current scheme is management on the outside, that's what you must do. Basically, you need ever more ingenious methods to keep them from committing more crimes. I'm sure some methods are relatively successful, but doubt any are 100% successful.
What's the known re-offender rate for sex offenders?
Its actually very low.
Thats from the Home Office, Most journal articles report around 2%, highest I have ever seen being 6%. The figures can be easily manipulated but in general, reconviction rate of sex offenders is very low.
Nebbiolo
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Very surprised at that, Danny. Perhaps my "lock 'em up and throw away the key" approach isn't as necessary as I thought. Obviously there will be a percentage that have just not been caught, but still that's far lower than I had believed.
In saying that, I do know that convicting, or even prosecuting, anyone on a charge related to rape is incredibly hard.
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Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
CBT?
I'm assuming in this case it doesn't stand for what i think it stands for.
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Cognitive Behaviour Therapy
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
Not Cock and Ball Torture then
Didn't really think it would be but going by what you'd said about it thought maybe someone was administering it to sex offenders to see how they reacted and linking it with violent sex crime.
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