Pinpoint the moment..

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This moment has been coming ever since the day that the Theatre Producer allowed a steel worker with zero experience in running premier league football clubs own a majority stake and take full control of the running of the club. This point was inevitable.
 
BlueStevie35 said:
Not so much that but Walsh bidding up on HIMSELF, with zero competition, when Swansea knocked back £40m
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There were other factors involved that drove the price so ridiculously high.
Swansea had the hump with us and were determined to extract every last penny they could.
 

I've not read all 10 pages but for me it's several decisions made by our last few managers who all decided to buy midfielders & attacking players instead of doing the thing they all should have addressed which was the defence. As each manager came & went the issue became more important to sort but seemingly got pushed back further & further. Adding that Fat Spanish Mess into the mix taking away our creativity & stupidly selling Digne & replacing him with someone clearly not ready yet was the final straw. We need at least 3 new defensive players of the right stuff desperately in the summer regardless of what division we are in.
 
MACCA75 said:
That has led to our potential relegation. If you have to choose just ONE decision/player sale/injury/game etc.

And this is aside from ‘appointing Benitez’ as clearly everyone would say that.

I’ll go for the failure to bring in a solid reliable central midfielder in the summer. Gomes, Delph and Gbamin should have been moved on and replaced with one decent Prem proven player.
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Appointment of Allardyce -

For the first time, it made me realise that there was a change for the worse in the 'club mentality' or 'DNA' or whatever cliche you want to use. For the first time in ages, even considering our famous last-day escape, it seemed like there was genuine panic in the boardroom, because we went dramatically from 'hollywood manager Koeman' to 'relegation expert Allardyce'. Entertaining the idea of relegation with Allardyce must have, in my opinion, changed the psychology of the club, because even for us, we could hardly believe that we actually needed saving.

All of that hope under Martinez & Koeman was then suddenly changed into WFT are we doing here? even the collection of no.10s still had not been tried out, and that year, had a clever manager been appointed who knew how to handle Rooney, Barkley, Klassen and Sigurdsson, and all the other signings, things might have turned out differently. Had we worked out what to do with recruitment, instead of going for the Walcott/Tosun emergency signings, and got in a manager with a longer-term view who actually knew how to play and organise a team, we would have maybe ended up somewhere around 15th place, but at least we were going somewhere in the right direction.
 

This season, Michael Keane in the first game. Set the tone for a truly pathetic defensive showing the entire season. Probably not the first in this thread to say it.
 
chicoazul said:
Evertonians bullying Michael Keane because they hate themselves more than him.
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I’m not up on all the face and heel turns that have happened in the last few years so it’s hard to know if you are being sarcastic. You’re saying it so often it seems legit. Every post mate is this same narrative attacking your fellow Everton fans. Do they hate themselves as much as you hate them? I get it but give it a break. Even lurking and reading just a few of the threads — 50% of every thread I read is you and Dave and a few others with this same message. It’s like a coordinated Fox News echo chamber attack. Culture war level sides where every post is a chance to wage your side of the war. Does anyone not get it now? How is this not the dreaded virtue signalling everyone hates so much? There isn’t one person, even people who come here for five minutes once a week and read a few random threads, there is no person left on earth who doesn’t get it now: The fans didn’t support the RS manager as much as they should have because they all hated him and hated the appointment and hated every other decision by Mosh for the last five years and some of you think the negativity hurt the club.

Chicken and egg. Every post, hours and days of your life, is essentially a chicken or egg argument at best. Was it the initial appointment of a manager we all hated, or the inevitable hatred itself?

It was a stupid decision and supporting Everton means supporting stupid decisions ever since Mosh showed up.

When these oligarchs showed up. Before we got one. A lot of people said it was a form of money laundering and it would end badly for all involved. That was then. Hopefully a lot changed from when people used to say that all the time when it wasn’t Everton involved.
 
njligernj said:
I’m not up on all the face and heel turns that have happened in the last few years so it’s hard to know if you are being sarcastic. You’re saying it so often it seems legit. Every post mate is this same narrative attacking your fellow Everton fans. Do they hate themselves as much as you hate them? I get it but give it a break. Even lurking and reading just a few of the threads — 50% of every thread I read is you and Dave and a few others with this same message. It’s like a coordinated Fox News echo chamber attack. Culture war level sides where every post is a chance to wage your side of the war. Does anyone not get it now? How is this not the dreaded virtue signalling everyone hates so much? There isn’t one person, even people who come here for five minutes once a week and read a few random threads, there is no person left on earth who doesn’t get it now: The fans didn’t support the RS manager as much as they should have because they all hated him and hated the appointment and hated every other decision by Mosh for the last five years and some of you think the negativity hurt the club.

Chicken and egg. Every post, hours and days of your life, is essentially a chicken or egg argument at best. Was it the initial appointment of a manager we all hated, or the inevitable hatred itself?

It was a stupid decision and supporting Everton means supporting stupid decisions ever since Mosh showed up.

When these oligarchs showed up. Before we got one. A lot of people said it was a form of money laundering and it would end badly for all involved. That was then. Hopefully a lot changed from when people used to say that all the time when it wasn’t Everton involved.
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Please keep on topic in the Everton forum mate.
 
The day Moshiri walked through the door! Before that we knew exactly what we were and exactly what to hope for, Moshiri's money has given the fans false hope that we can mix it consistently with the top end teams.

Its Mohiris appointments that have put us in this mess were are witnessing, without strategy you can have all the money in the world and it wont make you successful.
 

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