Players we must move on in the summer

Milk · February 20, 2022

Think it’s worth bearing in mind that Moyes at Sunderland brought in 13 players at the start of a season …. and got relegated

David Moyes made 13 signings as Sunderland manager - it was an absolute disaster

Oh dear, David Moyes

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Evolution not revolution

MACCA75 · February 20, 2022

Failing to move on Delph and Gomes and replace with 1 reliable midfielder has killed us this year.

Toffeelover · February 20, 2022

Zatara said:
Sell

1: Delph
2: Sigurdsson
3: Tosun
4: Kenny
5: Begovic
6: Lonergan
7: Keane
8: Mina
9: Holgate
10: Coleman
11: Allan
12: Gbamin
13: Gomes
14: Davies
15: Iwobi
16: Townsend
17: Rondon

Keep:

1: Pickford
2: Patterson
3: Mykolenko
4: Nkounkou
5: Godfrey
6: Branthwaite
7: Doucoure
8: Alli
9: Gray
10: Gordon
11: Richarlison
12: DCL
13: Dobbin
14: Onyango
15: Tyrer

I would keep Kenny for now as back up for FB.

overkill said:
Release

Gbamin
Tosun
Rondon
Kenny

There contracts are up I think

Sell for any amount
Gomes
Delph (even if he'd go on a free)
Keane
Iwobi

Sell if we get a decent offer

Mina
Holgate
Mykolenko
Allan
Calvert Lewin (I mean a huge offer)

Although that's a lot of players.too look to move on, relasitically this many players won't be leaving unless we get relegated

Need to keep Myko and Holgate

Toffeelover · February 20, 2022

Timak said:
In order to sell you need a buyer prepared to pay the same or more in wages.

That isn't going to happen for anyone as Moshiri/Kenwright hand out £100k a week contracts like confetti.

They have committed the club to around £400m in wages up until 2025.

If we did go down we'd be entirely reliant on Moshiri putting practically all the money in or we'd go out of business.

I don't think people realise just how much danger we are in of not having a club.

I have repeatedly posted that in other threads, not just a case of getting a decent offer but a player will not go if the wages are not there. Tosun is the big example.

Bluestar · February 20, 2022

Timak said:
In order to sell you need a buyer prepared to pay the same or more in wages.

That isn't going to happen for anyone as Moshiri/Kenwright hand out £100k a week contracts like confetti.

They have committed the club to around £400m in wages up until 2025.

If we did go down we'd be entirely reliant on Moshiri putting practically all the money in or we'd go out of business.

I don't think people realise just how much danger we are in of not having a club.

It is a very sobering situation. We are in existential danger.

Billy Dean · February 20, 2022

Who is out of contract this summer?

BlueStevie35 · February 20, 2022

Billy Dean said:
Who is out of contract this summer?

Delph, Tosun, the Icelandic Ghost, Kenny, Begovic, Lonergan

overkill · February 20, 2022

Toffeelover said:
I would keep Kenny for now as back up for FB.

Need to keep Myko and Holgate

That's why I put myko and Holgate in if we get a good offer, that's true of any of our players though.

Kenny I wouldn't bother keeping, we have Patterson, and Nkonkuku to come back as well.

Billy Dean · February 20, 2022

BlueStevie35 said:
Delph, Tosun, the Icelandic Ghost, Kenny, Begovic, Lonergan

From that lot I'd keep Begovic and Kenny as squad players. Delph, Tosun and Soggy off the wage bill will be massive. If on top of that we could shift 2 or 3 more (for example Keane, Gbamin and Gomes) we would have some potential to do something in the transfer window.

dannyboy · February 20, 2022

The problem is that most will end up staying. There will be some decent players amongst this squad but it's difficult to identify them given how bad they are as a collective unit.

Based on this year's performances I'd want Gray, Pickford and Gordon as the priorities to stay but if any of them left I wouldn't exactly be in floods of tears.

Toffeelover · February 20, 2022

BlueStevie35 said:
Delph, Tosun, the Icelandic Ghost, Kenny, Begovic, Lonergan

All should go, only possible exception is Kenny, Begovic.

Simon Buttle · February 20, 2022

Toffeelover said:
I would keep Kenny for now as back up for FB.

Need to keep Myko and Holgate

Not sure tbh, he can be a red card waiting to happen in some games and he is very careless at times. I prefer him to Godfrey though who just isn't a defender for me, way too erratic.

Toffeelover · February 20, 2022

overkill said:
That's why I put myko and Holgate in if we get a good offer, that's true of any of our players though.

Kenny I wouldn't bother keeping, we have Patterson, and Nkonkuku to come back as well.

Forgot about him, can we recall to give him game time to be assessed ?

Toffeelover · February 20, 2022

Simon Buttle said:
Not sure tbh, he can be a red card waiting to happen in some games and he is very careless at times. I prefer him to Godfrey though who just isn't a defender for me, way too erratic.

With MIna and Keane gone short on CBs, regards Keane wish Frank would stop picking him.

Billy Dean · February 20, 2022

dannyboy said:
The problem is that most will end up staying. There will be some decent players amongst this squad but it's difficult to identify them given how bad they are as a collective unit.

Based on this year's performances I'd want Gray, Pickford and Gordon as the priorities to stay but if any of them left I wouldn't exactly be in floods of tears.

At the very least Delph, Tosun and Soggy will be off. If we can replace them with 3 solid first team players (and I realise this is a big if with our track record), then even if we can't get rid of any of the other wasters at least they'll be further down the pecking order and playing less games.