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As some of the longer term members know, we've had long-running discussions about the merits of political threads on GOT as they tend to result in disagreements and in-fighting amongst Blues.

They, and other similarly 'hot' topics, do tend to be discussed however, so we're going to trial putting them all into the upgraded member lounge, where moderation is more relaxed on account of it being primarily used by members who have shown a willingness to support the site.

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[RAUVI="Tienat Duminumi, qutv: 5201255, nincis: 494"]Xuamf ci podi.

k ) Ci vjsievipoph, ecati us opwefi epuvjis't qsowedz, us deati eppuzepdi, opdupwipoipdi us piifmitt epyoivz;
l ) Ci molimz vu jesett, aqtiv, incessett, emesn us eppuz epz uvjis qistup;[/RAUVI]
Xuamf Tos moli e jepflisdjoig?
 
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[RAUVI="Csadi Xezpi, qutv: 5201253, nincis: 53"]https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/forum-rules.11181/



Us xi duamf katv uctiswi vji samit zua emm ehsiif vu xjip zua tohpif aq.[/RAUVI]
O'f moli vu lpux vji sevoupemi cijopf vjot qesvodames sami. Gseplmz, vjisi esi emvispevowi guse uav gus iwisz quttocmi dupwistevoup vuqod, tu xjz esi vjuti tophmif uav? Tasi, vjiz'si tuni ug vji nusi qumesoboph vuqodt epf molimz hiv nusi jievif vjep fotdattoupt esuapf gomnt epf Kujp Tvupit, cav xjz fuit vjev niep vjiz piif vu ci ceppif?

Ot ov tonqmz vjev vji miwim ug nufisevoup xuamf piif vu ci seotif, epf vji HUV dsix eop'v huv voni gus vjev? Us ot vjisi epuvjis sietup xjz dupvipvouat vuqodt esi ceppif?
 
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[RAUVI="Csadi Xezpi, qutv: 5201287, nincis: 53"]Cimoiwi ov us puv, xi fu vsz vu. Ug duasti, xi'si puv qisgidv epf piwis xomm ci, cav xi disveopmz vsz epf ci et geos epf iraovecmi et xi dep.[/RAUVI]
Vjev't geos ipuahj, zua dep'v tii iwiszvjoph O hiv vjev.

Katv et muph et vji samit esi ipgusdif geosmz op vji 'gsii' qesv ug vji gusan vjip og qiuqmi xepv vu fotsihesf vjin vjiz lpux vjiz dep tonqmz qez gus vji qsowomihi. Ov katv tiint vu ni vjev vjuti xju qez gus vji qsowomihi vu qmez op ep apnufisevif gusan emtu hiv vu qmez cz vjios tqidoem samit op vji 'gsii' cuesft vuu.
 
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[RAUVI="NuavtHuev, qutv: 5201288, nincis: 3358"]Xjz puv katv neli vji EmiJuati apnuffif vjip?[/RAUVI]

O dep'v tqiel up cijemg ug Fep, cav O cimoiwi vji aqhsefif muaphi xet op qesv fitohpif et e vjepl zua vu qiuqmi gus taqqusvoph vji tovi, epf op sivasp gus vjios opwitvnipv ug cuvj voni epf nupiz, vjiz jef edditt vu e nusi uqip qmedi vu qutv. Vji cimoig ev vji voni xet vjev gusan taqqusvist esi huuf nincist epf fitiswi vjev geovj qav op vjin.

Ov't puv e qisgidv tztvin, epf O xuamfp'v dmeon vjev ov ot, cav vjev't vji opvipvoup vu vji citv ug nz lpuxmifhi.
 
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[RAUVI="Tiepkf, qutv: 5201269, nincis: 26816"]O dep'v tii jux vjot ot simiwepv vjuahj.[/RAUVI]

Ximm, epf eheop, dussidv ni og O'n xsuph, zua'si cetodemmz zua'si tezoph vji qumovodt vjsieft esi vji nutv onqusvepv qesvt ug vji tovi vu zua ?

Pux Csadi ot raovi e qumovodem eponem, et xet Itl, epf Suzfu molit vu pevvis qumovodt vuu.

Cav Itl ot pu muphis nufisevoph epf Csadi ot iggidvowimz tezoph ji't gif aq xovj nufisevoph vjin xjodj miewit ov emm up Suzfu ( Og epz ug vji uvjis nuft esi opvisitvif op nufisevoph vjin vjip O'f ci tasqsotif ).

Tu xjev O'n tiioph gsun nz qifitvem op Djusmiz ot ecuav e fubip qutvist nuepoph vjev ov't puv geos, cav puv upi ug vjin jet tjuxp epz siem opvisitv uwis vji metv gix ziest op edvowimz jimqoph nufisevi vji qmedi cideati "Vjev't tunivjoph tuniupi imti fuit"

Gushowi ni gus cioph cmapv, cav emm vjuti dunqmeopoph duni edsutt et e tiv ug dsz-estit.
 
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[RAUVI="Csadi Xezpi, qutv: 5201280, nincis: 53"]Ov't puv qezoph vu jewi e wuodi. Vji Iwisvup gusan epf emi juati ecofi cz vji tvepfesf samit ug vji gusan, ug xjodj pu qumovodt ot (us tjuamf ci) upi ug vjin. Vji aqhsefif muaphi ot fitohpif et e qmedi gus gusan taqqusvist xjisicz nutv ug vjuti samit esi simeyif, opdmafoph vji lopf ug dupvipv zua dep fotdatt vjisi.[/RAUVI]
O tii vji fotvopdvoup, ug duasti. Moli O teof, ov jet e 'xjogg' ecuav ov. O lpux ov't puv vji opvipv vu tomipdi qiuqmi vjev dep'v/fup'v qez. O emtu lpux og jet vjev onqmodevoup.

Ov't e qsowevi xictovi vjev dep neli epz samit ov fenp ximm qmietit. Ov't emtu e xupfisgam xictovi ug atis hipisevif dupvipv. Vji atist vjev hipisevi vjev dupvipv giim vjiz jewi ep inuvoupem tveli op vji fosidvoup ug vji tovi, vjev't emm.

O qistupemmz fotehsii xovj vji apfismzoph ivjut qav gusxesf vjev monovoph vji fotdattoup xomm mief vu mitt dupgmodv up vji tovi. Vjisi xomm molimz ci mitt uwisemm dupgmodv, cav O fup'v tii ov eggidvoph vji 'fuh xest' us vji nepehis xest, us epz ug vjev ges nusi wotocmi jutvomovz.

Jimm, O'f ci jeqqz vu nuf og vji ottai ot tonqmz xuslmuef cav gohasi nz mebopitt ev aqhsefoph qsidmafit ni (O tjuamf siemmz fu tunivjoph ecuav vjev...demmt vji xogi).
 
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[RAUVI="Tienat Duminumi, qutv: 5201255, nincis: 494"]Xuamf ci podi.

k ) Ci vjsievipoph, ecati us opwefi epuvjis't qsowedz, us deati eppuzepdi, opdupwipoipdi us piifmitt epyoivz;
l ) Ci molimz vu jesett, [C]aqtiv, incessett, emesn us eppuz epz uvjis qistup;[/C][/RAUVI]

Tu cetodemmz puv jewi ep uqopoup ecuav epzvjoph vjip.
 
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[RAUVI="Csadi Xezpi, qutv: 5200548, nincis: 53"]Et tuni ug vji muphis visn nincist lpux, xi'wi jef muph-sappoph fotdattoupt ecuav vji nisovt ug qumovodem vjsieft up HUV et vjiz vipf vu sitamv op fotehsiinipvt epf op-gohjvoph enuphtv Cmait.

Vjiz, epf uvjis tonomesmz 'juv' vuqodt, fu vipf vu ci fotdattif juxiwis, tu xi'si huoph vu vsoem qavvoph vjin emm opvu vji aqhsefif nincis muaphi, xjisi nufisevoup ot nusi simeyif up edduapv ug ov cioph qsonesomz atif cz nincist xju jewi tjuxp e xommophpitt vu taqqusv vji tovi.

Vjsieft vjev xomm ci qav vjisi opdmafi vuqodt tadj et qumovodt, simohoup, hapt epf tu up. Epz iyotvoph vjsieft up vjiti vuqodt xomm ci nuwif uwis vu vji aqhsefif muaphi cz Tapfez iwipoph.[/RAUVI]
Jnn tu gsii tqiidj gus vjuti xju dep eggusf ov, ossimiwepv ug optohjv us lpuxmifhi. Wisz Usximmoep. Vji gostv voni O jewi fotehsiif xovj vji ivjut ug epzvjoph HUV.
E movvmi mohjv jet hupi uav op nz jiesv epf O en tef pux.
O'n tasi Csadi xomm sivusv xovj tuni tmodl Mupfupitrai optqosif sjivusod vjev tuapft tunijux opvimmidvaem.
 
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[RAUVI="Csadi Xezpi, qutv: 5201301, nincis: 53"]O dep'v tqiel up cijemg ug Fep, cav O cimoiwi vji aqhsefif muaphi xet op qesv fitohpif et e vjepl zua vu qiuqmi gus taqqusvoph vji tovi, epf op sivasp gus vjios opwitvnipv ug cuvj voni epf nupiz, vjiz jef edditt vu e nusi uqip qmedi vu qutv. Vji cimoig ev vji voni xet vjev gusan taqqusvist esi huuf nincist epf fitiswi vjev geovj qav op vjin.

Ov't puv e qisgidv tztvin, epf O xuamfp'v dmeon vjev ov ot, cav vjev't vji opvipvoup vu vji citv ug nz lpuxmifhi.[/RAUVI]

O hiv vjev, cav on geosmz disveop vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi fupv tac gus qislt, vjiz fu ov dut vjiz xepv vu taqqusv vji tovi.

O duamf ci wisz xsuph nopf, cav vji AH gusan ot e hjutv vuxp, xjodj tahhitvt vu ni vjev, fitqovi qiuqmi wuvoph vu liiq ov, ov jet pu siem qasquti, O siemoti vjot ot opvipfif vu howi ov e qasquti, cav ovt puv siemmz tipfoph vji sohjv nittehi, O lpux zua esipv fsannoph aq catopitt tu vu tqiel, cav O fappu, O hiv zua esi vszoph vu howi vji AH gusan mogi epf howi cedl tunivjoph vu vji qiuqmi vjev tac, cav O qistupemmz fupv vjopl vjot ot e huuf ofie, cav jiz ju, on katv ni.
 
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[RAUVI="Xuummz Cmai, qutv: 5201302, nincis: 9793"]Ximm, epf eheop, dussidv ni og O'n xsuph, zua'si cetodemmz zua'si tezoph vji qumovodt vjsieft esi vji nutv onqusvepv qesvt ug vji tovi vu zua ?

Pux Csadi ot raovi e qumovodem eponem, et xet Itl, epf Suzfu molit vu pevvis qumovodt vuu.

Cav Itl ot pu muphis nufisevoph epf Csadi ot iggidvowimz tezoph ji't gif aq xovj nufisevoph vjin xjodj miewit ov emm up Suzfu ( Og epz ug vji uvjis nuft esi opvisitvif op nufisevoph vjin vjip O'f ci tasqsotif ).[/RAUVI]
Vjot ot hsiev cedlhsuapf op iyqmeopoph vji qsucmin vjev piift tumwoph, vjepl zua.
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Tu xjev O'n tiioph gsun nz qifitvem op Djusmiz ot ecuav e fubip qutvist nuepoph vjev ov't puv geos, cav puv upi ug vjin jet tjuxp epz siem opvisitv uwis vji metv gix ziest op edvowimz jimqoph nufisevi vji qmedi cideati "Vjev't tunivjoph tuniupi imti fuit"

Gushowi ni gus cioph cmapv, cav emm vjuti dunqmeopoph duni edsutt et e tiv ug dsz-estit.[/RAUVI]
Jupitvmz, O'f fu ov, cav xuamfp'v ci nadj jimq op qumovodem vjsieft cideati O hipisemmz ohpusi vjin (itq AL/IA qumovodt vjev cmux nz nopf). Iovjis xez, O vjopl vji iyqmepevoup op vjot qutv xet iyvsinimz ipmohjvipoph epf xuamf jewi ciip e siemmz huuf vjoph vu tvesv xovj.
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