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Politics and stuff

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Bruce Wayne

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As some of the longer term members know, we've had long-running discussions about the merits of political threads on GOT as they tend to result in disagreements and in-fighting amongst Blues.

They, and other similarly 'hot' topics, do tend to be discussed however, so we're going to trial putting them all into the upgraded member lounge, where moderation is more relaxed on account of it being primarily used by members who have shown a willingness to support the site.

Threads that will be put there include topics such as politics, religion, guns and so on. Any existing threads on these topics will be moved over to the upgraded lounge by Sunday evening.
 

Fair enough from a technical aspect.

What sticks in my craw is the heady miasma of Elitism and automatic assumption of entitlement (etc) wafting from the Upgraded (don't forget the upgraded lids, you're even better than the plebs now) Members Lounge, that due to having a few bob to spare, member '@Ivor Lott' is deemed more able to hold a 'proper' discussion on 'sensitive' topics than say member '@churchmouse'

Either everyone counts or nobody counts - I thought that the old saw of...'everybody's equal but some are more equal than others' had well been laid to rest.
I would argue less than 20p per week is a few bob to spare, to support the GOT, or to use the members lounge they even send you a GOT mug fgs - also by clicking on adverts on any thread - it helps to pay for the server it's a great site it has moderators who probably do it at their expense they don't need hassle on certain subjects -if they imposed £10 A year membership leve I feel most would pay it, they genourously leave it at donation level they are the exact opposite to what you are portraying imo they are very fair moderators.
The forum lounge is full of things you may or not like it is certainly not elitist in anyway it is a suggestion by @Bruce Wayne which is feasible idea of common sense to cut the mods workload down!
Everybody can become a keyboard warrior, and things get out of hand including me 99 percent of GOT posters are great it's hard to keep an odd poster in hand on a vast memberships!
 
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From my perspective, anyone that brings Carlos' thread into an argument such as this doesn't get what this place is about.



They are interested in modding the forum. But it seems like they want to try something different so they can concentrate on moderating things which don't actively break the rules. Plainly the rule about politics was made to be broken, but more on that in a minute.




I know your post is a bit tongue in cheek mate, and I actually think you'd make an ace moderator, but one of the common themes coming out of this thread is a willingness to help moderate political threads, but at first glance, there's not a great deal of willingness to moderate the whole forum.

I think that says a lot about peoples priorities in the forum. Whether that's important, good or bad, or even relevant is open to debate, I just find it interesting.



Unless you've had to reinvent yourself, you've been here since 2015 so your experience is limited. You joined when @The Esk was moderating, who, along with @Bruce Wayne was keen on promoting political discussion on GOT. @roydo started moderating in 2015 and he liked / likes to natter about political stuff.

Previous to that, the mod teams stance on political threads was less positive. These things tend to go in phases and I suspect it's always been so, and will remain something which ebbs and flows.

Bruce is getting a lot of stick in this thread, but he deserves a lot of credit for coming out and saying he's changed his mind on how the political stuff should be treated. The way people are reacting you'd think the change was written in tablets of stone and will never change, but, to me it sounds like an experiment which will be reviewed in due course.



Yea, I'm taking a slightly exaggerated stance, but someone accusing me of being divisive on a thread about political threads makes me smile a bit !

Truth is I have an almost unique perspective on this because I know the angst it causes in mod central but, because I'm no longer in there I can be brutally honest ( I likely would be even if I was still a mod btw, that's how I roll unless it's plainly going to upset someone unnecessarily ). So I'm sorry ( but not much ) if my honesty upsets you.

I will say one last thing though. I ain't going to name names, but at least one person who's been vocal on this thread has previously reported posts from right-wing members whose views they found repulsive.

Now, while I agree that the views were indeed repulsive, I think that if you want to discuss politics and the like on here, you have to take the rough with the smooth and allow ALL views to be aired. Even if those views appear to incite hatred and may actually be illegal, they are likely held by a sizable minority of the population so, for me, it's an all or nothing situation, so there's a wee bit of hypocrisy being aired in this thread.

It was a genuine offer. I have previously offered to modererate across the whole forum and that was a genuine offer too......
 
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It was a genuine offer. I have previously offered to modererate across the whole forum and that was a genuine offer too......
Even though I think you're a mental right wing brexit loving Tory Pete I still think you'd moderate political threads fairly, I think the trouble here is mods have come up with a dreadful idea then have switched their goalposts so many times trying to look like they've decided on this based on rational discussion that they've come out looking like they're imposing something that 95% of posters in this thread think is daft but they're too far into it now to back down because they fear that they might be seen as weak.

It's not a sign of weakness to admit that your proposal hasn't gone down well with the plebs, and back down from your 'experiment' (never forget this is and experiment) and go back to the drawing board

Sad really but such is life
 
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