Homepage Article POLL: Do you want Moyes back? Results: 80% No

[Ihaters]

I think context is important too. Silva has a better win % here than Moyes did at West Ham but Silva has had millions to spend, where Moyes took over West Ham in the relegation zone and kept them up, they quite like him there.

At Sociedad, he took over a team 2 points off the relegation zone, that had lost 5 of it’s last 7 and had just sold it’s best player (Griezmann) and again, steered them to safety, beating Barcelona in the process.

Sunderland and United have been crisis clubs for more managers than just Moyes.

For context, there would probably be his last 4 teams, but I guess Everton's very good win/draw/loss record would skew the results in Moyes favour

 

[Papa Shango]

Not for me.

Though I appreciate the work he did in turning our club around, I think both him and Everton have gone backwards since he left.
I think he has regressed potentially even more than we have, and the combination of two downward spiralling entities seems unlikely to have a positive outcome.

That being said, Moyes did a really good job for us and I feel deserves a lot more credit than he gets, but that's just my opinion.

He got a guard of honour in his last game. What more does he want?

 

[Cmonefcsortitout!]

Yes looking forward to us being as solid as Sunderland where in his time there

I think we have much better players than Sunderland did, although having watched our attempts to defend last night, maybe not! At the end of the day, who are going to get instead of Moyes? Would you stick with Silva?

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Just remind me of the situation at United when he took over...

Come on mate, that wasn't an easy job.

It was a poisoned chalice at United and everyone knew it. Everyone said before he even went there that the person who would succeed at United would be the person after the person who replaced Fergie. And that was basically how it was. Van Gaal, one of the best coaches in the history of the game, did better but didn't do a whole lot better than Moyes did. Mourinho and Solskjaer haven't fared much better either. Everyone knew Moyes had a big re-build job at United. Half the 1st team were in their 30's when he took over. It's not like he walked in to ready-made champions. There are far bigger problems at Manchester United that he had to contend with, beyond just the playing staff - and it's the same problems those subsequent managers have faced and haven't been able to overcome either.

Most United legends like Neville, Beckham, Law and even Ferguson were totally against sacking him and believed he deserved more time. He got 10 months in a very difficult job, to try and recycle and rebuild, it was never going to happen overnight.

 

[Ihaters]

He got a guard of honour in his last game. What more does he want?

Not sure he wants anything mate.

 

[Papa Shango]

If blue bill wasn’t at the club how many of us think brands Moshiri ryazantsev would be round the table suggesting Moyes is the right man to put in charge?

They would be suggesting Daniel Farke or someone looking at past appointments.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Come on mate, that wasn't an easy job.

It was a poisoned chalice at United and everyone knew it. Everyone said before he even went there that the person who would succeed at United would be the person after the person who replaced Fergie. And that was basically how it was. Van Gaal, one of the best coaches in the history of the game, did better but didn't do a whole lot better than Moyes did. Everyone knew he had a re-build job at United. Half the 1st team were in their 30's when he took over. It's not like he walked in to ready-made champions.

Most United legends like Neville, Beckham, Law and even Ferguson were totally against sacking him and believed he deserved more time. He got 10 months in a very difficult job, to try and recycle and rebuild, it was never going to happen overnight.

He walked into a team of current champions with a winning culture and the funds and cache to target whoever they wanted. So in the wonderful world of football with the backing of one of the most famous clubs in the world, he went out and signed Fellaini, Juan Mata and 2 other blokes who sank without trace. So, if you're saying he had a rebuilding job on, I agree, but he knew he was starting that job for ages and failed to strengthen.

He got rid of ALL the backroom staff, replacing them with his own, thus ripping out the culture of the club which is still impacting them today.

Then he set about trying to make a team of aging thoroughbreds play like a buch of midtable cloggers.

 

[EFC-FCN]

I’d take a chance with Julian Nagelsmann, the 32 year old manager of Red Bull Leipzig, who’s taken them from nowhere to 2nd in the Bundesliga, and top of their Champions league table, above Benfica, Lyon, and Zenit.
I’ll probably get slaughtered for suggesting him, but he’s going places this fella !

 

[funkygibson]

Come on mate, that wasn't an easy job.

It was a poisoned chalice at United and everyone knew it. Everyone said before he even went there that the person who would succeed at United would be the person after the person who replaced Fergie. And that was basically how it was. Van Gaal, one of the best coaches in the history of the game, did better but didn't do a whole lot better than Moyes did. Mourinho and Solskjaer haven't fared much better either. Everyone knew Moyes had a big re-build job at United. Half the 1st team were in their 30's when he took over. It's not like he walked in to ready-made champions. There are far bigger problems at Manchester United that he had to contend with, beyond just the playing staff - and it's the same problems those subsequent managers have faced and haven't been able to overcome either.

Most United legends like Neville, Beckham, Law and even Ferguson were totally against sacking him and believed he deserved more time. He got 10 months in a very difficult job, to try and recycle and rebuild, it was never going to happen overnight.

When all said and done he took a title winning squad from 1st to 7th. Yes a rebuild was going to be needed over the ensuing years but they should never have dropped so many league positions.

 

[bicycleheader]

I’d take a chance with Julian Nagelsmann, the 32 year old manager of Red Bull Leipzig, who’s taken them from nowhere to 2nd in the Bundesliga, and top of their Champions league table, above Benfica, Lyon, and Zenit.
I’ll probably get slaughtered for suggesting him, but he’s going places this fella !

he is already at a place

a better place

he’ll not be leaving that to coming to 18th place mulling over moyes Everton

 

[Deleted member 38674]

I’d take a chance with Julian Nagelsmann, the 32 year old manager of Red Bull Leipzig, who’s taken them from nowhere to 2nd in the Bundesliga, and top of their Champions league table, above Benfica, Lyon, and Zenit.
I’ll probably get slaughtered for suggesting him, but he’s going places this fella !

Oh you would, would you? That's awfully bold of you, mate. Controversial.

Tell me, mate. How you going to convince a bloke who's 1 point off the top of the Bundesliga, flying in the Champions League, with arguably the best young squad in Europe, to come to a 18th placed Everton side with problems all over the pitch?

Sort that last bit and we're sound, like. I'm probably with you, I'd have Nagelsmann too.

 

[marcus]

Yes from me.....Moyes is our best option....

Other shouts are either unrealistic or a worse option....

 

[Neiler]

He fits into a 2019 Everton like I fit into a 1980s school uniform

With crowbar a lot of deep breathing and some baby oil! lol

 

[bluesb1970]

But we have Boa Morte who has had 4 jobs in 2 years because he is really pulling up trees.

Not sure that’s relevant mate.

 

[marcus]

The picture of Moyes with Man utd players at the front of the poll shows a leaning of bias towards the no vote....