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Posh people things

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Bit of a sweeping statement. And I think you are confusing Posh with aspirational.

Pal of Mrs R (part time medical receptionist) has a daughter about 14 who is on the fringe of the GB Olympic Gymnastics team). Bust her ankle in such a way that the only surgical team that Olympic GB would approve is in Birmingham. (We are near Bristol).

So Olympic GB contribute a bit,(travel, accomodation) but they are stumping up a few bob themselves.

Cant see the hate there.
No hate, just making the observations. My point on the Olympics is not that ordinary people are excluded by any means, it's just that fewer of such aspirational people can afford the coaching / time / kit if they are not posh. Ironically though, I also became aware that very much more posh voices appeared in recent Olympic events, since funding was increased by the government.

Look at the smooth path Sebastian Coe had from his public school to lordship via the Olympics. A true media darling who was always bigged up by his Media chums. Steve Ovett on the other hand, despite in my eyes being the superior athlete and sportsman, committed the crime of being common and we never heard of him again.
 
No hate, just making the observations. My point on the Olympics is not that ordinary people are excluded by any means, it's just that fewer of such aspirational people can afford the coaching / time / kit if they are not posh. Ironically though, I also became aware that very much more posh voices appeared in recent Olympic events, since funding was increased by the government.

Look at the smooth path Sebastian Coe had from his public school to lordship via the Olympics. A true media darling who was always bigged up by his Media chums. Steve Ovett on the other hand, despite in my eyes being the superior athlete and sportsman, committed the crime of being common and we never heard of him again.

Horses for courses isn't it? Many of the sports we're good at, such as rowing and equestrian, do tend to attract certain types, but equally cycling has a very broad range of participants, as does track and field. Three of the biggest performers of recent times, for instance, have been Wiggins, Ennis and Peaty, all of whom come from regular backgrounds. Important not to perceive barriers where there are none.

Even in somewhere like tennis, which has this 'white, middle class' air to it, the local courts near me in Elephant are full to bursting with kids playing every evening, and it's probably fair to say there isn't a white, middle class face among them. Life is tough enough without seeing barriers that might not exist :)
 

In my experience, proper posh folk are really polite and nice.

Folk who think they are posh, or try to be, are usually unpleasant and look down their nose at you. (see my post in the Fuming thread).

Folk who really dont give a flying one about it all are generally sound as.

And folk with "Dr" in their address get really annoyed when you ask them if they are "Mrs Smith" instead of "Dr Smith", which I always do, for funsies really.
Totally agree. People who are snobbish tend to be those who have done well for themselves and look down on those that haven't.
 
At work, I wouldnt have a problem with it personally. But folk addressing parcels of crap from Sports Direct or Mothercare to themselves as Dr, they really should get out more.

I have a PhD but did not go down the academic route afterwards. At work to begin with it was more a hindrance than a help. I never regret doing it though I would cringe if anyone addressed me as "Dr" in any everyday context. I get occasional items of post that are addressed as such which is ok. I did the PhD just for personal ambition and nothing else, though there are scores that insist on the title at every opportunity.

To be honest I don't like using titles or honorifics at all, and anyone who is sensitive about being addressed by any title is not somebody worth knowing usually.

Even when attending my GP, I won't refer to the practitioner as "Dr". It is a form of deference which is just unnecessary and gives one person implied power over the other.

I live what on paper would be considered as a fairly comfortable, suburban middle-class life, surrounded by people who were either born into that way of living or are aspiring to such. That includes the vast majority of my work colleagues, associates, friends, in-laws. I am very proud of my working class roots though and culturally and socially, could never shake them off in an environment that seems to want to force me to do so. I feel more affinity with characters in The Royle Family than anyone in my social or work circle.

"Poshness" is harder to define these days, it at least seems there are less posh people in circulation than there was when I was at university. Culturally if not economically there has been a levelling of the playing field, there are plenty of Hyacinth Buckets around but these people are just parodies of themselves.
 

I have a PhD but did not go down the academic route afterwards. At work to begin with it was more a hindrance than a help. I never regret doing it though I would cringe if anyone addressed me as "Dr" in any everyday context. I get occasional items of post that are addressed as such which is ok. I did the PhD just for personal ambition and nothing else, though there are scores that insist on the title at every opportunity.

To be honest I don't like using titles or honorifics at all, and anyone who is sensitive about being addressed by any title is not somebody worth knowing usually.

Even when attending my GP, I won't refer to the practitioner as "Dr". It is a form of deference which is just unnecessary and gives one person implied power over the other.

I live what on paper would be considered as a fairly comfortable, suburban middle-class life, surrounded by people who were either born into that way of living or are aspiring to such. That includes the vast majority of my work colleagues, associates, friends, in-laws. I am very proud of my working class roots though and culturally and socially, could never shake them off in an environment that seems to want to force me to do so. I feel more affinity with characters in The Royle Family than anyone in my social or work circle.

"Poshness" is harder to define these days, it at least seems there are less posh people in circulation than there was when I was at university. Culturally if not economically there has been a levelling of the playing field, there are plenty of Hyacinth Buckets around but these people are just parodies of themselves.

Bloody Hell. Posh you lad.
 
I have a PhD but did not go down the academic route afterwards. At work to begin with it was more a hindrance than a help. I never regret doing it though I would cringe if anyone addressed me as "Dr" in any everyday context. I get occasional items of post that are addressed as such which is ok. I did the PhD just for personal ambition and nothing else, though there are scores that insist on the title at every opportunity.

To be honest I don't like using titles or honorifics at all, and anyone who is sensitive about being addressed by any title is not somebody worth knowing usually.

Even when attending my GP, I won't refer to the practitioner as "Dr". It is a form of deference which is just unnecessary and gives one person implied power over the other.

I live what on paper would be considered as a fairly comfortable, suburban middle-class life, surrounded by people who were either born into that way of living or are aspiring to such. That includes the vast majority of my work colleagues, associates, friends, in-laws. I am very proud of my working class roots though and culturally and socially, could never shake them off in an environment that seems to want to force me to do so. I feel more affinity with characters in The Royle Family than anyone in my social or work circle.

"Poshness" is harder to define these days, it at least seems there are less posh people in circulation than there was when I was at university. Culturally if not economically there has been a levelling of the playing field, there are plenty of Hyacinth Buckets around but these people are just parodies of themselves.


What was the PHD in? Anything interesting?

Guy i know in Singapore is doing a Masters at UCLA which will lead to a PHD.

He told me that hes paying someone to write all his assignments....he also said that it wasnt discouraged.
 
No hate, just making the observations. My point on the Olympics is not that ordinary people are excluded by any means, it's just that fewer of such aspirational people can afford the coaching / time / kit if they are not posh. Ironically though, I also became aware that very much more posh voices appeared in recent Olympic events, since funding was increased by the government.

Look at the smooth path Sebastian Coe had from his public school to lordship via the Olympics. A true media darling who was always bigged up by his Media chums. Steve Ovett on the other hand, despite in my eyes being the superior athlete and sportsman, committed the crime of being common and we never heard of him again.


If youre good then you get sponsors...when i was growing up we had the sports brands hovering around our teams after competitions.
 

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