Positives of Martinez.

[Sheedy's right knee.]

We have no DOF

He couldn't defend properly with Jagielka and Stones

We cant be worse at defending than we are now.

 

[Bluerover]

Slightly higher chance of playing pretty football and losing as opposed to playing ugly football and losing

Tippy tappy until we get within 30 m of the goal. Then it all breaks down. Rinse and repeat. Please God no.

 

[ToffeeTim]

We cant be worse at defending than we are now.

Probably not but we had big issues at set plays under him. We need a basic approach where we pick up our men and then offer threat at the other end.

 

[vintage-toffees]

He wears nice shoes

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Martinez nearly relegated us, so he's not the right man for the job. He's a nice guy though, and seems to have a genuine love and affection for the club. If we do rehire him then he'll have my full backing, but i hope he's learned his lessons, from the last time he was here!

 

[trueblue84]

< He will not have the baggage of a team of moyes failures. Only Coleman remains and he will be gone in the summer if Everton have any sense.

That baggage is the only reason he had a good first season.

< Perfect man for a long building project. He has revolutionized the youth setup of Belgium, putting the foundations in place for continuity.

Or, he criminally wasted Belgium's golden generation.

<Knows what it means to be at the club, actually meaningfully. Did Sam, Koeman, Silva understand that, does Moshiri?

Meaningless.

<The negativity around poor signings in the past will be null and void due to having a new DOF.
He will be under a director of football by the summer. This means in theory the quality of defenders we sign will be better.

Who is the DoF he's working under?

<The defending Myth would simply go away if you did not have Tramps like Michael Keane in your team.

It wouldn't. He said in an interview that he didn't see the point in dedicating training to defending set pieces.

Martinez will install a philosophy that Everton can stick to. A style of play Everton can stick to. If in 3 years it does not workout. You can get a similar manager who plays similar style. Not being Bipolar moving from one style to another.

There is no 3 years for a manager anymore. Even winning managers move on after about 5 years. Pep will and klopp will.

I think he can make a much better go at it this time. Any issues around his past can be mitigated by support of the board.

How and why? There's nothing to suggest he won't make the same mistakes again and definitely nothing to suggest our board would mitigate any risk.

Let Martinez rebuild.


There is a great core of young Players. Patterson, Richarlsion, Calvert, Gordon, Nkounkou, Pickford who a team can be built around. Maybe Doucoure and Mina too. Get some new center backs. New left winger, new Midfielders things will lookup really fast.

Richarlison will leave in the summer and Pickford isn't young. I wouldn't trust him to rebuild as he has a habbit of buying absolute dross.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The main positive of Martinez is that his song is class

 

[4737carlin]

Didnt he go bald last time he was here? Does he really want to put himself through that again

 

[Dancing Pat]

Phenomenal.

Beat me to it!

All that goes through my mind is Kendall parts 2 & 3?

Should never go back.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Kind of want him just for the first press conference. It will be like Digne’s farewell post but on steroids. Then it will all go downhill after that but we’ll get a glorious 15 mins of phenomenals

 

[tommye]

He's not a fat kopite

 

[Goodison87]

He’s got no hair but we don’t care, Bobby, Bobby M.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Knows the club
Knows the area.

 

[Walter Ego]

Tbh to him Belgae haven’t looked that bad defensively have they? Or have they? I never watch them ?

 

[Dutch Toffee]

< He will not have the baggage of a team of moyes failures. Only Coleman remains and he will be gone in the summer if Everton have any sense.

< Perfect man for a long building project. He has revolutionized the youth setup of Belgium, putting the foundations in place for continuity.

He was saved first season by the still installed Moyes defensive discipline.

He F'd up with the Red Devils. Golden generation is all but finished.