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POTUS 2016

Push the button, pull the lever, who's it going to be?

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mezzrow said:
The Justice Department has granted immunity to the former State Department staffer who worked on Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private email server as part of a criminal investigation into the possible mishandling of classified information, according to a senior law enforcement official.

The official said the FBI had secured the cooperation of Bryan Pagliano who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign before setting up the server in her New York home in 2009.

As the FBI looks to wrap up its investigation in the coming months, agents will likely want to interview Clinton and her senior aides about the decision to use a private server, how it was set up, and whether any of the participants knew they were sending classified information in emails, current and former officials said.

The inquiry comes against a sensitive political backdrop in which Clinton is the favorite to secure the Democratic nomination for the presidency.

So far, there is no indication that prosecutors have convened a grand jury in the email investigation to subpoena testimony or documents, which would require the participation of a U.S. attorney’s office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...0-11e5-9c36-e1902f6b6571_story.html?tid=sm_tw

Hmmm... Got to confess this is a surprise. Who's going under the bus, then? Seeing the grunts getting DoJ immunity never makes the CEO sleep better.

Popcorn futures, take my advice. Get 'em while you can.
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Do you think Obama's DOJ will push this issue or has someone taken a large paycheck to take the fall to get it wrapped quickly?
 
SerenityNigh said:
Do you think Obama's DOJ will push this issue or has someone taken a large paycheck to take the fall to get it wrapped quickly?
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Your guess is as good as mine. I have no idea why Obama does much of what he does.

The FBI's Comey doesn't sound like a guy who's eager to play ball and help them out of this. Sounds like considerable resources have been dedicated to the process, and perhaps it's a question of whether anybody (Comey?) will resign over a refusal to bring this to a grand jury. He'll be around long after Obama is gone otherwise, so no good spin can be attached to him pulling an Archie Cox. How much flak will Obama take for Hillary and the party?

She may surface as an "unindicted co-conspirator..." to show that history does repeat itself. (goes long on Iowa popcorn futures)

What a country.
 
What evidence is there that electorate of the UK, Canada, Australia (main countries I follow for obvious reasons) will elect anyone who threatens the 1%? The UK just elected a corporate-shill pig lover (again!) for FFS. Australia have a banker (who is an upgrade over the Trump-lite they used to have I admit but hardly likely to shake things up too much). I kind of like Justin but so far there is no evidence he will do anything but lead from very slightly left of center.

Bernie is closer (and I realize he isn't *that* close) to the top than any far left candidate has been lately anywhere else.

Granted someone like Trump is also closer.

Make no mistake: the establishment likes Hillary.

Make no mistake: the establishment is a bit scared about Trump.

Make no mistake: the establishment is pants-crappingly terrified of Bernie.

But at least *some* Americans are trying. Read what Bernie says. Then think about the garbage on offer in the last UK election.

If you are a human Spitting Image and all you care about is getting in the latest "Drumpf" zinger then have at it I suppose.

If you are concerned about the TPP, the banks, private prisons and the corrupt legal system, equality ... then you need to learn from what is happening with Bernie in the US right now because *that* sector of the American public is WAY ahead of anything coming out of the rest of the English speaking world.

Anyway this is all warm up. We'll give it a real shot in 2020. Hopefully the wave gets farther than Vegas this time.
 
So many people came to see Trump in Valdosta, in southern Georgia on the Florida border, that at least 1,000 couldn’t get in and had to listen to his speech on loudspeakers, standing on the tennis court outside the basketball arena that was packed to the rafters...

...Bill Griffin was one of those who didn’t make it in, because he had to drive to the rally after work. He is a social worker in Florida; from 1998 to 2002, he worked in the state legislature in Tallahassee, where he knew Jeb Bush. Griffin had already voted early for Trump. “I’m a moderate Republican,” he said. “Who else is there? You know, Trump really is a moderate. He used to be a Democrat, for God’s sake! He’ll get smart people in there who know what they’re doing.”

People see whatever they want to see in Trump, and then they refuse to see anything else. He has won the moderate, secular, independent voters of New Hampshire, the archconservative, devoutly religious Southerners of South Carolina, and the rugged, gun-toting, government-loathing individualists of Nevada. If Trump is stopped now, what will happen to all these people? Are they really all going to vote for someone who got half as many delegates as Trump and got handed the nomination by a convention-floor establishment conspiracy?

“I expect he’ll get the Republican nomination, unless they Shanghai him,” Randy Lawson told me as we walked to Trump’s rally in Alabama, along with his 11-year-old son, who had made a poster that said, “WE NEED…the TRUMP, the whole TRUMP, and nothing but the TRUMP.” Lawson continued, “If they take it away from him, I think that would ruin the Republican Party.”

I asked if that prospect bothered him. “No,” he said. “It wouldn’t break my heart.”

This is really true to life. This is my part of the world, and these are the people I've lived my whole life with.

RTWT or TL;DR - your call. I recommend.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-trump-tipping-point/471840/
 
Dylan said:
That's a bit much....23% of people who have voted in our little poll support Trump. And we have a far flung 'constituency'
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Know your stats lad - 23% who voted in our poll think that it will be Donald Trump. That does not equate to supporting him now does it? I don't support him, but I think he will do it, which is depressing as poor language
 

mezzrow said:
So many people came to see Trump in Valdosta, in southern Georgia on the Florida border, that at least 1,000 couldn’t get in and had to listen to his speech on loudspeakers, standing on the tennis court outside the basketball arena that was packed to the rafters...

...Bill Griffin was one of those who didn’t make it in, because he had to drive to the rally after work. He is a social worker in Florida; from 1998 to 2002, he worked in the state legislature in Tallahassee, where he knew Jeb Bush. Griffin had already voted early for Trump. “I’m a moderate Republican,” he said. “Who else is there? You know, Trump really is a moderate. He used to be a Democrat, for God’s sake! He’ll get smart people in there who know what they’re doing.”

People see whatever they want to see in Trump, and then they refuse to see anything else. He has won the moderate, secular, independent voters of New Hampshire, the archconservative, devoutly religious Southerners of South Carolina, and the rugged, gun-toting, government-loathing individualists of Nevada. If Trump is stopped now, what will happen to all these people? Are they really all going to vote for someone who got half as many delegates as Trump and got handed the nomination by a convention-floor establishment conspiracy?

“I expect he’ll get the Republican nomination, unless they Shanghai him,” Randy Lawson told me as we walked to Trump’s rally in Alabama, along with his 11-year-old son, who had made a poster that said, “WE NEED…the TRUMP, the whole TRUMP, and nothing but the TRUMP.” Lawson continued, “If they take it away from him, I think that would ruin the Republican Party.”

I asked if that prospect bothered him. “No,” he said. “It wouldn’t break my heart.”

This is really true to life. This is my part of the world, and these are the people I've lived my whole life with.

RTWT or TL;DR - your call. I recommend.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-trump-tipping-point/471840/
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njligernj said:
What evidence is there that electorate of the UK, Canada, Australia (main countries I follow for obvious reasons) will elect anyone who threatens the 1%? The UK just elected a corporate-shill pig lover (again!) for FFS. Australia have a banker (who is an upgrade over the Trump-lite they used to have I admit but hardly likely to shake things up too much). I kind of like Justin but so far there is no evidence he will do anything but lead from very slightly left of center.

Bernie is closer (and I realize he isn't *that* close) to the top than any far left candidate has been lately anywhere else.

Granted someone like Trump is also closer.

Make no mistake: the establishment likes Hillary.

Make no mistake: the establishment is a bit scared about Trump.

Make no mistake: the establishment is pants-crappingly terrified of Bernie.

But at least *some* Americans are trying. Read what Bernie says. Then think about the garbage on offer in the last UK election.

If you are a human Spitting Image and all you care about is getting in the latest "Drumpf" zinger then have at it I suppose.

If you are concerned about the TPP, the banks, private prisons and the corrupt legal system, equality ... then you need to learn from what is happening with Bernie in the US right now because *that* sector of the American public is WAY ahead of anything coming out of the rest of the English speaking world.

Anyway this is all warm up. We'll give it a real shot in 2020. Hopefully the wave gets farther than Vegas this time.
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The highest praise you can give Bernie is that the Guardian hates him as much as they hate Corbyn. They were even suggesting his campaign was excessively white earlier today.
 
In a campaign so ridden with race baiting it's strange Hilarys acquaintance with a KKK bigwig hasn't been mentioned much.
 

chat on tonight's debate:

"I think I'm watching a a soccer match in Liverpool"

"Liverpool is more civilized"

get this out there:

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