Nebbiolo
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Thatcher was the worst thing that happened to this country.
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Thatcher was the worst thing that happened to this country.
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black 'pudding' president !!! eckythump
gone, but never to be forgotten.
she shaped my whole life from her milk snatching days
chucking me on a yts
selling the m.o.d. factory to b.a.e. so i couldnt leach off the tax payer forever.
i hope she gets that disease where bits fall off, they when she dies they can bury her handbag. she was roundly booed at wembley when i went for a challenge cup final (before she was pm) and she made her mind up then that the north would get it.
evil bitch should be hung drawn and quatered.
Sharpys top lip
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Nebbiolo
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Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.....
Maybe an arm wrestle. I think Bruce keeps in shape so I'm not optimistic about a full-on scrap with him. But I understand his central point, Thatcher did take the unions down a peg or two, and empowered a lot of people. Unfortunately, she couldn't leave it at that and her policies were extremely harmful to millions of people. I could get into all the stuff like the poll tax; massive interest rates; a fractured cabinet; huge unemployment rates in the north; the death of communities; the sale of council housing; the miner's strike; the increased problems in Northern Ireland; total deunionization; the VAT rise and on, and on, and on.
Whitebootman
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Ask yourselves this. If Britain still tried to trade as a major manufacturing power where would we be when China and other Asian countries can produce things a darn site cheaper than we can? Face it, to survive in a global economy we had to move from a manufacturing economy to a service economy. Some people undoubtably didn't like the medicine but it was the right medicine to take.
We also had to move from an economy where the state propped up failing industries to one that left them to their own devices. It's interesting to note how people are pretty pissed off now that the taxpayer is propping up the finance sector, yet back in the 80's the no lame duck policy met with such anger. It's probably hard to admit that Thatcherite economics is now part of the nations consciousness. Just a pity Gordon Brown didn't have the courage to let failing banks go to the wall too.
We also had to move from an economy where the state propped up failing industries to one that left them to their own devices. It's interesting to note how people are pretty pissed off now that the taxpayer is propping up the finance sector, yet back in the 80's the no lame duck policy met with such anger. It's probably hard to admit that Thatcherite economics is now part of the nations consciousness. Just a pity Gordon Brown didn't have the courage to let failing banks go to the wall too.
Nebbiolo
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Having just made the move from Scotland to Denmark, I'm surprised at how much its manufacturing base is thriving. It's much like Britian before Thatcher took over. What the Danes did is find products to manufacture that were desired. All I'm saying is that manufacturing did have a future, as long as we were capable of finding the right goods to manufacture. Plus, I have no qualms about government investing financially in sectors if it means social and economic stability.
The Esk
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(off topic - sorry)
Are you serious?
We faced a complete meltdown of the banking system which had to be averted at any cost. Not because we have a fondness for bankers and their city friends, but for the undeniable truth that we need a fully functioning banking system to maintain the economy in any shape.
Even with the support package in place, our banking system is not fully functioning with damaging effects in the mortgage market and for businesses large and small.
How much more damaging would the complete collapse of the banking system have been ?
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she sold the ordnance factories to b.a.e. for a quid, to pay for the weapons used in the falklands, they were very profitable and now the ones remenaining are b.a.e. and sell everything to the government.
the domestic manufacturing base has also gone though, apprenticeships stopped about 19 years ago so the workers are from about 38 to retirement age, and there isnt enough domestic engineering for them to do, the numbers get less each year but still outnumber available jobs.
thats just the engineering example.
the domestic manufacturing base has also gone though, apprenticeships stopped about 19 years ago so the workers are from about 38 to retirement age, and there isnt enough domestic engineering for them to do, the numbers get less each year but still outnumber available jobs.
thats just the engineering example.
Namdrater
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I must admit I was a little suprised when reading CNN's exit polls that a majority in almost every state believes that gay marriage should be banned. Now, America is supposed to be 'the land of the free'... whose business is it anyway if a gay couple wishes to marry? South Africas constitution is more progressive than that.
Also, why do they do this electoral college thing? How is it democratic if the one candidate wins the percentage of peoples votes, but doesnt get enough electoral points? Its like setting a value on peoples votes depending on which state they're from.
I'm not trying to blast American policies, but maybe some American forum posters could provide some input into these sort of things
Also, why do they do this electoral college thing? How is it democratic if the one candidate wins the percentage of peoples votes, but doesnt get enough electoral points? Its like setting a value on peoples votes depending on which state they're from.
I'm not trying to blast American policies, but maybe some American forum posters could provide some input into these sort of things
Desaparecido
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Also, why do they do this electoral college thing? How is it democratic if the one candidate wins the percentage of peoples votes, but doesnt get enough electoral points? Its like setting a value on peoples votes depending on which state they're from.
I'm not trying to blast American policies, but maybe some American forum posters could provide some input into these sort of things
Erm, oh i'm not american but I think its to do with proportional representation resulting in weak governments because the majority is never large enough to pass legislation properly. Or maybe its not. Something like that.
Depends how you look at it doesn't it? I'm sure the actions taken by Gordon Brown will go some way to providing short-term relief, but have they provided a deterrant for banks not to do this again?
I would rather there were short-term failures if it meant that the finance sector took a bloody long look at itself and ensured this sort of thing didn't happen again.
People have to appreciate that there are consequences to ones actions, and that applies to the public as well as bankers.
Nebbiolo
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Surely some type of legislation is in order that ensures liability when bad banking practice is found to be going on? Or perhaps that exists already?
uknightbreed
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well a few years ago a majority of people bought cliff richard :mistletoe and wine and made it xmas number 1.
that was an example of how the majority isnt always right.
this election is another.
hate to say it but americans have voted for someone who really has little experience and has too much work to do , the bar has been raised and im adamant he will fall on his face.
he hasnt run a state , he hasnt even run a company.
i see this more of an anti bush election rather than an election for the best candidate.
obama is a typical all skirt no knickers politician and once the daydreaming public and obama get over there honeymoon period cracks will appear fast .
i shall stand buy to say i told you so.
ps after watching plenty of interviews with the man , ive come to the conclusion that civil rights campaigner jesse jackson is nothing more than a racist son of a bitch.
the man is less about equal rights and seems more hell bent on black supremacy.soemone should tell him that racism goes both ways and isnt a black only monopoly.
that was an example of how the majority isnt always right.
this election is another.
hate to say it but americans have voted for someone who really has little experience and has too much work to do , the bar has been raised and im adamant he will fall on his face.
he hasnt run a state , he hasnt even run a company.
i see this more of an anti bush election rather than an election for the best candidate.
obama is a typical all skirt no knickers politician and once the daydreaming public and obama get over there honeymoon period cracks will appear fast .
i shall stand buy to say i told you so.
ps after watching plenty of interviews with the man , ive come to the conclusion that civil rights campaigner jesse jackson is nothing more than a racist son of a bitch.
the man is less about equal rights and seems more hell bent on black supremacy.soemone should tell him that racism goes both ways and isnt a black only monopoly.
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