2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[Kev The Rat]

Simply reading the rules would help your ignorance on this.

The profit and sustainability rules (the PL's version of FFP) are contained in Section E of the Premier League Handbook, rules E.45 to E.53.

Essentially they limit the permitted losses of a football club to £105 million over a three year period. This is not the aggregate of the net losses shown in the accounts. Several costs are permitted to be deducted from the statutory accounts (i.e. not counting towards the rolling £105m permitted loss figure), these being:

• Depreciation and/or impairment of tangible fixed assets & amortisation of goodwill (not players’ registrations)
• Women’s football
• Youth development
• Community development
• Covid costs for 2019/20 and 2020/21 – lost revenues and exceptional costs directly attributable to the pandemic

Don't take my word for it, read the rules from the PL handbook yourself, but please stop spouting utter nonsense

https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2021/11/15/30bc89cd-6be5-45ea-a5bf-53337c2b6c65/PL_Handbook_2021_22_DIGITAL_11.11.21.pdf

Fine as as I’ve said an extra 4m per season on one employee im confident will not tip us over the edge

 

[PhilEFC]

Yes! Lets also sack Carlo retrospectively. Leading la liga with Real but what does he know huh.

I reckon I’d be leading La Liga with the team he’s got.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Fine as as I’ve said an extra 4m per season on one employee im confident will not tip us over the edge

Unfortunately it isn't as simple as that. For a start Ajax wouldn't simply allow their manager to join Everton for free. There would be compensation in the millions involved. Then he would also bring backroom staff with him - again, there's compensation involved with that.

Then there's Benitez - we don't get to sack him without paying him off, that's another cost in the millions. That's probably the case with his staff too.

I have no idea what sort of wiggle room we have currently, but sacking Benitez, paying big compensation for a new manager and then paying the new one 50% more than the last one would not be insignificant

 

[Kev The Rat]

Unfortunately it isn't as simple as that. For a start Ajax wouldn't simply allow their manager to join Everton for free. There would be compensation in the millions involved. Then he would also bring backroom staff with him - again, there's compensation involved with that.

Then there's Benitez - we don't get to sack him without paying him off, that's another cost in the millions. That's probably the case with his staff too.

I have no idea what sort of wiggle room we have currently, but sacking Benitez, paying big compensation for a new manager and then paying the new one 50% more than the last one would not be insignificant

We don’t know exactly what the room for manoeuvre is but we have got rid of several big earners in the squad and are likely to lose several more in the summer. I understand the points you are making but we are talking about replacing one manager with another, not spending 30-40m plus wages on a single player as a straight addition to the squad, with no outgoings. The total outlay will likely be much less than half of that.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

I’m hoping the galoot chins him during half time on Wednesday for refusing to bring Rondon off…

 

[blu87554]

I reckon I’d be leading La Liga with the

Unfortunately it isn't as simple as that. For a start Ajax wouldn't simply allow their manager to join Everton for free. There would be compensation in the millions involved. Then he would also bring backroom staff with him - again, there's compensation involved with that.

Then there's Benitez - we don't get to sack him without paying him off, that's another cost in the millions. That's probably the case with his staff too.

I have no idea what sort of wiggle room we have currently, but sacking Benitez, paying big compensation for a new manager and then paying the new one 50% more than the last one would not be insignificant

Again, why the hell would Ten Hag change a champions league puring squad for us? Nuno, maybe but i doubt he will cone for cheap after we treated him. Potter? Much higher flying with his current squad. I think our options for a new manager are severly limited, will cause bigger ffp problems and sacking benitez now adds to a reputation of us chewing managers by making them scale goats for the poor quality of players.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Again, why the hell would Ten Hag change a champions league puring squad for us? Nuno, maybe but i doubt he will cone for cheap after we treated him. Potter? Much higher flying with his current squad. I think our options for a new manager are severly limited, will cause bigger ffp problems and sacking benitez now adds to a reputation of us chewing managers by making them scale goats for the poor quality of players.

Fonseca maybe ?

 

[blu87554]

Fonseca maybe ?

Thats more in our league. Sacked at Porto, mediocre at Roma and no pm experience. It has ending in tears written all over it but, true, he could replace Benitez.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Thats more in our league. Sacked at Porto, mediocre at Roma and no pm experience. It has ending in tears written all over it but, true, he could replace Benitez.

We have to take a risk at this point

 

[Kev The Rat]

Good morning David, I’m glad you approve of the term “ Tapas Tits “, as I’ll be using it daily from now on.

Toodles x

I’ll be referring to him as ‘it’ from now on.

 

[Dykovski200]

Has he been sacked yet, I know we can’t keep going through managers as we have already and I know the injuries have been a problem too. But his sheer stubbornness yesterday at not bringing another attacker on was a shambles, he could have brought on Tosun/Simms for Iwobi who yet again was another passenger through the game but no, he can’t see past his belly. If we take a battering against the RS on Wednesday then surely he has to be given the boot.

 

[kenada_blue]

Here we go again. The inknowbetterheshouldvplayedvandeerbeek argument.

I think iwobi is terrible and rondon a stone, but maybe they are chosen for tactical reasons. I could think rondon doesnt need all the extra tactical training. Or tosun and co looked [Poor language removed] in training. Whatever. I doubt they would be an improvement.

You at least try at some point in the game which is the reason why people are frustrated

 

[Dixieslaces]

Then why are you calling a man with that pedigree a waste of space?

Doesn't make sense.

Because what has passed is no longer relevant

 

[Papa Shango]

I don’t understand what’s so contentious about this. RB certainly needs to help himself with in-game management, team selections and occasional post-match remarks but removing the manager (at further considerable expense to the club) after a few months in post brings its own set of problems.

Continuing this kind of form may make it untenable in the coming months anyway, but at some point we have to acknowledge that changing the manager doesn’t fix the problems at the club and is compounding them instead.

The most important thing is having the right person in charge.

 

[Zatara]

It should be sacked immediately - it’s a dinosaur manager who is now turning on the fans in an attempt to curry favour with the owner. It has failed and doesn’t even manage the team.

Unlike some nutcases here the board will not voluntarily oversee relegation without first having installed a new manager.

No ffp restrictions on managers - pay Ten Haag 12m a year and go for a long term project.

But Kev you just voted in the thread i posted that you want immediate success.. not a 2.5 year project ?