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wainy
Player Valuation: £35m
Normally I’d agree with you mate, but, if my numbers are right, that was the 15th goal we’ve conceded from a set piece this year. That’s not on the players, that’s bad coaching.
Okay, as a set-piece defender? Well he played last week. I can't remember off the top of my head where in the box he was for their goal?
Yeah, and we saw that these same players can be very effective at set-pieces at both ends last season
they also lost 9-0.
wainy
Player Valuation: £35m
This. We had that unconventional two banks of four that sat really deep. Whilst it was uncomfortable viewing, it did work. This zonal crap just isn’t happening. I could accept it if we were at the top end of the table and only conceded a couple of corners a game, but we give silly free kicks and corners away at will and it costs us big time.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
The players have been bad the whole time!
I don't disagree all the way. He's got to find solutions. But I think we need to acknowledge the whole problem.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
But these aren't the same players! Digne, Mona, DCL and Richarlison are all long term absentees.
wainy
Player Valuation: £35m
We will agree to disagree mate, that’s fine. I just think we need to change it up, he can’t just say “oh well dcl, Mina etc aren’t fit”. That’s why he’s paid incredibly well to sort this out.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
I feel like the deep lying system was more a gimmick than anything. And I don't think it would work if you had the deepest line be Rondon, Keane, Doucoure and Godfrey like it would have been today. Why do we not see it anywhere else including with Carlo now?
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
I know, but is there a solution? He's got one CB that can win a header. I'm just not sure there's a good answer.
wainy
Player Valuation: £35m
Probably because he saw we are absolutely hopeless doing anything else. We only conceded 9 from set pieces in the whole of last year.
kiss the crest
Player Valuation: £35m
How bad is this going to get before he gets the bullet, because let’s face it, the fans can’t stand him, we are getting out played by Hull, he keeps playing 5 at the back and it simply is not working, he is definitely not doing himself any favours, also constantly playing Rondon???? Hoping he becomes good, everyone can see he is totally out of his depth.
I don’t agree with your interpretation mate, going man to man, doesn’t mean you are necessarily stuck to a man, it means you defend your area regardless of the man, but you take a man logically, you play the tactic in your role regardless of the player, but the player in your area is your responsibility, if it flips you compensate. It’s also not as dogmatic as you present, as I said above before their was ever a zonal marking system, their was always the scope in a man marking system, to attack the ball instinctively - we all know is you don’t stick with your man rigidly, the decision making peices is the art of defending. But also if you aren’t in the phase you are contributing by minimising the breakdown or the second phase.
That is also the premise of zonal, but puts more emphasis on attacking the ball, but on the more emphasised scope, difficulty is leaves gaps and as we see week after week, it’s leading to goals. Our players aren’t comfortable with it. It can be effective but I don’t think we have the players to utilise it properly, nor the players to manage the breakdown or transition, especially if the transition needs to go through central midfield.
I didn’t think either of their forwards was very good today. I thought we created our own problems today, set peices and crosses are a disaster in this system as it proved. Personally I would have have had our players right to a man, our players are far better defending man and ball rather than just ball. We struggled with the over load on the new lads side, I would have changed the blend in midfield in the 25 min stage the new lad struggled, deployed Alan a sweeper to that side and shut down the threat. Like they deployed Docherty on Gordon after the first 25 mins in the first half when he was roasting this full back.
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
We don't get results in the next three surely he has to go?
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