Relegation 2022/23

[JohnRoss23]

I think Bournemouth and Leeds will be okay. As of right now I have Forest, Leicester and Southampton going down. I’m afraid it’s going to come down to the last day though. Us included.

 

[buskwhi2]

Really bizarre to say it was a disgrace to be honest. We were 1-0 up and conceded because of a horrific individual error, before losing to a very late goal. In a list of disgraceful Everton performances, it would struggle to make my top 1000. Very strange that people still haven't gotten over Moyes, considering everything that's gone on since. There's a lot of similarities between Dyche and Moyes, I hope he can do as well for us as Moyes did.

I was a big fan of Moyes but Liverpool were there for the taking that day. The players came out for the 2nd half and it was clear they’d been told to drop 10 yards deeper rather than continue how we had been playing. He passed up that opportunity

 

[Lanolin]

I was a big fan of Moyes but Liverpool were there for the taking that day. The players came out for the 2nd half and it was clear they’d been told to drop 10 yards deeper rather than continue how we had been playing. He passed up that opportunity

I'm not saying it was a tactical masterclass though, just that it wasn't 'a disgrace'. Losing 2-1 at a neutral venue to a side that you are - at most - slightly better than is just one of those things really, if things like that are a disgrace then we'd have to be digging pretty deep into the thesaurus to find words to describe some of games I've seen us play in the last 30 years.

 

[Mickey]

Some pessimists here have said that Everton might struggle to get out of the Championship if we do go down. That we will lose players like Pickford and a couple of others.

I watched the Burnley v Sunderland match last week and hardly recognised the Burnley squad. I checked back and found that
they used 15 starters in the two matches against us last season and only three of them were in the team against Sunderland,
plus one who'd been on the bench.

So, even with that massive turnover of players they're running away with that league. It can't be that hard.

Er, not that I think we will go down, just saying.

The Championship is many levels below the prem. We'd walk it if the unthinkable happened.

 

[buskwhi2]

I'm not saying it was a tactical masterclass though, just that it wasn't 'a disgrace'. Losing 2-1 at a neutral venue to a side that you are - at most - slightly better than is just one of those things really, if things like that are a disgrace then we'd have to be digging pretty deep into the thesaurus to find words to describe some of games I've seen us play in the last 30 years.

Fair enough. “Disgrace” might be a tad over the top but it’s just semantics. The opportunity was there and it was thrown away.

 

[RomanReigns]

I think Bournemouth and Leeds will be okay. As of right now I have Forest, Leicester and Southampton going down. I’m afraid it’s going to come down to the last day though. Us included.

 

[Yarrgh]

That's two last-gasp equalisers against so-called big six clubs. Here's to more of the same at the weekend.

Last gasp winners please!

 

[Tony’s Carp]

8 match ban for Mitro, unhelpful to us as he was missing us anyway and will miss other rivals now too.

2 games for Silva so think he misses out against us too, never sure how big a difference that makes in practice.

 

[hoppy]

Fulham Mitrovic eight match ban

 

[Saint Domingo]

I'm not saying it was a tactical masterclass though, just that it wasn't 'a disgrace'. Losing 2-1 at a neutral venue to a side that you are - at most - slightly better than is just one of those things really, if things like that are a disgrace then we'd have to be digging pretty deep into the thesaurus to find words to describe some of games I've seen us play in the last 30 years.

Once again I think people overestimate the quality of the players we have/had.

Liverpool had Agger, Skrtel, Carragher, Glen Johnson, Gerrard, Henderson, Downing, Carroll, and to top it all off a prime Luis Suarez one of the bets strikers on the world at the time. They also had Kuyt Bellamy and Maxi Rodriguez to call off the bench. All of these players were experienced internationals at the time (except maybe Carragher)

We had Phil Neville, Distin, Heitinga, Baines, Osman, Gibson, Fellaini, Magyar Gueye, Cahill, Jelavic, with bench options of Anichebe, McFadden, Stracqualursi. Most of these players weren’t even internationals at the time with maybe Fellaini Baines Cahill and Jelavic the only ones. The bench options are extremely weak as well plus there’s no player there who can touch Suarez in terms of quality (which ultimately made the difference on the day along with Distin’s mistake)

I sometimes think fans give far too much credence to ‘going for it’ or ‘sitting back’ like it’s a conscious decision on the pitch. The entire game is about exerting a team’s way of playing on their opponent and vice versa. We’d exerted ours more often than them in the first half but in the second half they exerted theirs which is what you expect of a group of players of that quality. It wasn’t because Moyes sat back, or that they were there for the taking, it’s because they outplayed us in the second half and forced us back.

It’s the same argument with the final. We didn’t lose because Moyes didn’t ‘go for it’. We lost because one of the best teams in Europe turned it on an and absolutely battered us. Despite this we missed our clear chances to score a second (Osman’s header) and their far superior players (Drogba and Lampard) didn’t. Fan views are far too own team centric. ‘We lost because we didn’t go for it etc.’ sometimes it’s true, but most times, especially against top opposition, it’s because they’ve just exerted their superior quality on the game and are controlling the outcome.

 

[LABlue2]

I have a feeling that Everton v Bournemouth on the last day of the season will decide who finishes 18th.

 

[Tony101]

I have a feeling that Everton v Bournemouth on the last day of the season will decide who finishes 18th.

That wouldn’t be good for the heart but I think we will beat Bournemouth at home especially if we need to win.

 

[blue61]

I have a feeling that Everton v Bournemouth on the last day of the season will decide who finishes 18th.

puts toilet roll in early refrigeration

 

[davek]

Bournemouth beat Liverpool at home? Are you saying they won’t win another game after Southampton? They still have West Ham at home as well. In fact Bournemouth’s fixtures look very kind to me. I think they’ll survive.

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I'm not saying they wont. I'm saying it looks like S'ton is the one they'll win and the others I can see them not getting points from.

I dont rate B'mouth. They've beat an out of sorts Liverpool and then beat Fulham shorn of their first choice attack.

If Brighton take points from them tonight they are one of those outside of S'ton and Forest that I can see taking up that last relegation place.

 

[USABlue]

Guessing we want a draw from Forrest/Leeds or just hoping Leeds bottom out?