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Relegation 2022/23

Are Everton going to stay in the Premier League?

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I hope you're right, but Leicester have Maddison, Barnes, Tielemans and Vardy, who could all suddenly click.

Imagine Everton having just Vardy right now.
Their form hasn't been good, but they're not bad footballers and I did say could, not would.

I hold my hand up about my Vardy comment. I hadn't noticed his poor lack of goals.
 
‘Well Palace is up next and they've won three straight. Then next week is Newcastle who before Saturday had won five prem games in a row. Then after Leicester it's Brighton and Man. City.’
Christ didnt realise Palace on form🙁 I cant see us getting anything from these unless we get a psychological lift if Calvert comes back in. Even then i dont know.
 
They might do, but I think that's based on the next three matches they have. Wolves, Leeds and Everton. If they pick up two wins out of those they're in business. But if they dont, the last 4 look dodgy for them.

People say they score goals. They have more than us, that's for sure. But the've only scored 6 goals in the last 9 winless games they've played. It's dried up for them. Even we scored 8 in the last 9 games.

As I said before: Leicester are better than where they are? Ok, then they have to prove it by getting 11 points from 21 - after having taken only 8 points from the last 48 on offer.

Hmm i wonder which one of those games they will win
 

‘Well Palace is up next and they've won three straight. Then next week is Newcastle who before Saturday had won five prem games in a row. Then after Leicester it's Brighton and Man. City.’
Christ didnt realise Palace on form🙁 I cant see us getting anything from these unless we get a psychological lift if Calvert comes back in. Even then i dont know.

Means nothing. They won one in 13 before this run.

Fulham lost the last 5 before turning us over.

Weirdly enough id rather go to a team in form as we never beat any struggling teams.
 
neatly sums up the picture I think....
Everton and Nottingham Forest players clash

Premier League relegation odds: Which three teams are going down this season?​


By Alex Keble
09:39 · WED April 19, 2023

We are officially in run-in territory, and fittingly the last few weeks have seen the re-emergence of the Premier League’s mid-table.
Crystal Palace’s three consecutive wins under Roy Hodgson and a surprise flurry of victories for Bournemouth, coupled with West Ham and Wolves predictably progressing towards the mean, has placed a seal around the bottom five.
It will almost certainly be three of Southampton, Leicester, Nottingham Forest, Everton and Leeds who drop into the Sky Bet Championship at the end of May – and arguably two of those are all but gone.

Premier League relegation odds (via Sky Bet)​

  • Southampton - 1/12
  • Nottingham Forest - 2/7
  • Leicester - 4/5
  • Everton - 1/1
  • Leeds - 9/4
Odds correct at 1700 BST (18/04/23)
https://m.skybet.com/lp/acq-bet-x-get-30?sba_promo=ACQBXG30&aff=681&dcmp=SL_ACQ_BXG30

Saints and Forest: Sure to go down​

Southampton are five points adrift, without a win in six, and sinking fast.
They simply do not have the quality to mount a comeback and are suffering the consequences of that disastrous mid-season manager change.
Forest, meanwhile, are within touching distance of others but their horrible run-in means it would take a miracle for Steve Cooper to keep them up.
A total of 21 of their 27 points have come at the City Ground, where they face Brighton, Southampton and Arsenal, plus away from home they still have Liverpool, Brentford, Chelsea and Crystal Palace.
Surely they cannot get three wins or more from that lot.

Leicester: Smith & Terry can boost them up​

Winning the second half 1-0 at the Etihad was just enough of a springboard to get Dean Smith started.
His surprise appointment hasn’t filled Leicester fans with confidence but there is a good chance he will find success implementing the same ultra-defensive counter-attacking football he used to drag Aston Villa out of the bottom three in 2019/20.
The way Leicester scrambled into their own penalty area from the first minute at Manchester City was a sign of things to come.
Leicester's shot map against Manchester City

Smith, delegating defensive duties to assistant John Terry, has already established a back three of Caglar Soyunku (effective at City after being brought in from the cold), Harry Soutar, and Wout Faes.
They will sit deep and throw their bodies in front of everything.
It worked for Villa largely because they could chuck the ball to Jack Grealish to relieve pressure, and in James Maddison – who has 15 goal contributions in 23 starts this season – Leicester have a similar outlet.
In fact, they are the highest scorers in the bottom half with 41; sort out the defence, which Smith will do by moving the line back 20 yards, and Leicester ought to have enough to survive.
Dean Smith and John Terry

Smith is also a well-liked coach whom players tend to enjoy working for, which should be enough to lift talented players like Wilfried Ndidi, Youri Tielemans, and Harvey Barnes.
The fact that Smith has already established a leadership group and sought their input in meetings will have gone down well.
Now all they need to do is play at about 80% of their actual level and - with Wolves (h), Leeds (a), Everton (h), and Fulham (a) in their next four – Leicester will survive.

Everton: Dyche slipping up without key midfielders​

For a while it looked as though Sean Dyche would steady the ship as predicted, after Everton picked up three 1-0 wins at Goodison Park through early Spring, but injuries have caused fresh disruption.
Dyche’s 4-5-1 looked powerful enough through the middle – with Abdoulaye Doucoure, Idrissa Gueye, and Andre Onana – to grind out wins even without a recognised centre forward, but Onana’s groin injury and Doucoure’s suspension saw Dyche move to a 4-4-2 against Manchester United and Fulham, games that ended in defeat.
It really is as simple as that: with the right midfield Dyche has a platform, but without key players Everton are hopelessly brittle.
Everton's last ten games under Sean Dyche

The good news is that Dominic Calvert-Lewin is expected to feature this weekend for the first time since Dyche’s debut, while Doucoure only has one match left on his suspension, so if Dyche shifts Alex Iwobi back into the middle and returns to a 4-5-1 – with a target man up top – Everton stand a fighting chance.
Then again, their remaining home matches are Newcastle, Man City, and Bournemouth, and with Dyche yet to win an away game as Everton manager that heaps a lot of pressure on the final day.
They could scrape points at Crystal Palace, Leicester, Brighton or Wolves, although it’s difficult to see how they get three wins.

Leeds: Defensive collapse signals relegation​

Robin Koch's Leeds side were well beaten by Crystal Palace

It might be hard to picture Everton’s away wins, but Dyche only needs to win three more points than Javi Gracia’s Leeds – which looks increasingly doable.
Leeds have fallen apart at the worst possible moment. Their 6-1 defeat to Liverpool on Monday night follows a 5-1 defeat to Crystal Palace eight days earlier, making it 11 goals conceded in consecutive games at Elland Road, while across the last eight matches only Chelsea and Forest failed to score at least twice against Leeds.
Heads have dropped.
Gracia was brought in to normalise Leeds and improve their defensive showing, and without that there is very little reason to believe he can keep up what is the worst squad of the three clubs being considered here.
Leeds under Javi Gracia in the Premier League

It gets bleaker. Since October, Leeds have won just four league matches and all four were against teams in desperate situations at the time: Forest, Wolves, Southampton and Bournemouth.
Of their remaining seven matches only Leicester are in that sort of trouble, although Gracia will hope for results against Bournemouth, Fulham, and West Ham – all away.
They only have three more at Elland Road and two of those are against Newcastle and Tottenham.
With no comeback on the horizon, and no obvious reason why Leeds should suddenly get better, it seems likely they will win three fewer points than Everton – joining Southampton and Nottingham Forest in next season’s Championship.
 
That would mean we have to win 2 and draw 2 of our remaining 7 games. One of which is Man City at home
And means Leicester need 9 points from 21 when they've taken 1 point from the last 24. Our scenario is more realistic but people seem to want to big Leicester up which I can't understand.

Avoid defeat there and I think we will finish ahead of them. A draw there would be enough.
 
7 games is still a long way to go. 21 points on offer and we probably need 9 minimum. So three wins out of seven games. its a big ask for any team down there but if Leicester, Leeds or us manage 3 wins then they will probably be ok. Not all 3 teams will of course and whichever doesn't likely joins Forest and Southampton.
 

Let those who seem to be amused by all this crystal ball predicting, continue until the axe falls or doesn't fall , I have today bestowed on our beloved club my season tickets renewal. My son likes to joke and says he will pay his half when we reach 36 points.
 

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