Ronald Koeman discussion

[davek]

But it hasn't been undistinguished really has it ? In place of debate you sometimes just re-iterate the same half truths over and over ,until people give up correcting you and the half truth becomes an accepted fact.

Done nothing in any league worth mentioning. Fact.

 

[Goat]

Done nothing in any league worth mentioning. Fact.

5th highest "ranked" manager in the league based on major trophies won.

 

[bazzer25]

Done nothing in any league worth mentioning. Fact.

I agree but neither have Moyes or Martinez if we are to be completely honest here.

 

[MACCA75]

I'm not referring to this season. I'm saying that if we spend and don't get beyond 7th in future seasons he's toast.

I really think people have to realise just how much spending it will take to break the top 4.

Arsenal have the 4th highest wage bill for example.

Now we could sign 20 players tomorrow, put them all on 100k per week, and our wage bill would still be nowhere near Arsenal.

That's the size of the mountain. And that's before we even consider we are net spend in the transfer market, which would need to increase on an unprecedented scale.

 

[roydo]

Done nothing in any league worth mentioning. Fact.

True.

So write him off then. Excellent.

 

[Arnold]

can imagine the players throwing the towel in after Koeman's idiotic comments

I imagine we will drop down the league between now and may

 

[sheedys left foot]

Absolutely. 11th was unacceptable. But 7th is too. Good enough to keep a manager in their job at this club ordinarily, but not good enough if they are spending cash to get further up the table.

True that, but the cost of our squad today is still a lot less than any of the top 6. Therefore at the moment we should be 7th. However should we outspend united, city, spurs, Chelsea, arsenal and the other shower then your argument will be relevant. Until then, anything above 7th will be overachieving.

 

[davek]

"Progress" is the word mate.

I agree. But we were at 5th a few seasons ago under the guidance of what Im always told is an inferior manager to this present one. So it has to be relative to that. 7th with 'a better manager' and more spending does not represent progress.

 

[Zezti]

I agree but neither have Moyes or Martinez if we are to be completely honest here.

Martinez did do something worth mentioning.
He got Wigan relegated.

 

[bazzer25]

can imagine the players throwing the towel in after Koeman's idiotic comments

I imagine we will drop down the league between now and may

What for stating the truth that some are not good enough, we are not talking about kids here they are professionals earning a fortune, my expectation between now and then would be for them to try and prove him wrong, if they can't they don't belong at the club.

 

[Goat]

I really think people have to realise just how much spending it will take to break the top 4.

Arsenal have the 4th highest wage bill for example.

Now we could sign 20 players tomorrow, put them all on 100k per week, and our wage bill would still be nowhere near Arsenal.

That's the size of the mountain. And that's before we even consider we are net spend in the transfer market, which would need to increase on an unprecedented scale.

Erm, Arsenals wage bill is 180m, ours is around 83m, 20 players 100k a week would put us at 187m.

Just sayin.

 

[mutley]

There is no 7th this season, there's the top 6 and then there's 14 also rans

 

[ianefc]

Done nothing in any league worth mentioning. Fact.

Who are you to judge that?

Martinez won a 6 game tournament yet Koeman winning the Copa Del Rey is 'nothing'

 

[ianefc]

There is no 7th this season, there's the top 6 and then there's 14 also rans

Nonsense

 

[bazzer25]

Martinez did do something worth mentioning.
He got Wigan relegated.

Also won the FA Cup but Koeman won a significant cup with Valencia as well so its swings and roundabouts.