davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Thanks mate, I'll bear that in mind. You're always thinking of me.
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Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Amongst all the RK bashing you do make some good posts and this is one of them.
Seventh will represent acceptable progress for the first season and is more realistic after our dreadful run of results and form in the autumn when the top 6 pulled away.
However we can finish 7th on 68 points or possibly as low as 58 points. We get the same prize money and possibly EL qualification either way, but one scenario says we're not that far away from breaking the "top 6" next year, and the other tells us we still have a mountain to climb.
scratchnsurf
Player Valuation: £40m
Does that make you hopeless Dave?
'Best of the rest' will almost certainly get us Europe...
Also, it's what was clearly stated as the target right at the start. Top seven, pushing for Europe...
We're still on course for that - though we need to keep this momentum going - and have been all season...
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The worst thing that can happen to this team is qualify this season for the EL. I can see the dilemma: finishing 8th and out of the EL places for certain would look like not much progress has been made. Finishing 7th (though a mere one place above) is more saleable as progress because we have all now been spoon fed that 7th represents 'the best of the rest' (not in my view, but that's another debate).
Evertonians should pray that S'ton beat Liverpool tonight and get one of those EL spots, and that a possible route into the EL via the FA Cup goes a similar way. Next season will be carnage in the PL if this lot are playing Thursday/Sunday on a regular basis.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yes, something I mention above.
Dave you are falling into the "Super Six" trap.
5th place is still "best of the rest" and will remain so while only the top four go into the CL.
Why David?
Under Moyes it never bothered us, we managed to play the Europa without it affecting our league position, in order to progress we need European football, our current players crave it and any new players we show interest in will also require it. Its a total myth that the Europa ruins seasons, maybe it does for bad managers who cant build squads.
To progress as a football club we need European football, are you suggesting we dont try and qualify for the CL in the future, cos it destroys seasons?
And if we finished 8th, it would show progress, in case your not aware, we have finished 11th for 2 seasons, 8th would be massive progress, but as I keep saying, we have a fighting chance at finishing in the top 4, here Dave, drink from my cup.
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If we want to attract the next level of player and keep our current best, we need European football sooner rather than later.
It's up to the manager to build a squad with enough quality and depth to handle the extra games
Also, nothing beats a European game under the lights at the old lady
It's up to the manager to build a squad with enough quality and depth to handle the extra games
Also, nothing beats a European game under the lights at the old lady
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
No mate. When we we were with Moyes and he had us in Europe he had a settled team - he was about 3/4 seasons into his time here and had time to build that first squad of his up and have them playing...and, btw, we always struggled until the second half of the season until we were out of that ridiculous competition. The EL is basically like the Battle of the Somme. You fight like crazy to get two yards forward.
...and 8th would be nothing. Absolutely nothing. As is 7th, btw, it was nothing under Moyes (as you well know and others do because we took the piss out of the 7th placed trophy often enough, and it is so still...no matter how many mugs want to fall for the 'Sensational Top Six' nonsense now being bandied about to excuse mediocrity in the PL).
Re-read your post after pal, and I agree.
It's as good a place as any to build on.
Two disappointments for me so far this season:
- The cups, obviously
- Throwing away points during that poor run - e.g. Burnley, Swansea etc. That'd have seen us well in the mix.
It is what it is though. If the RS are still title contenders, then by the same logic, we're still contenders for Europe. And if Liverpool beat Saints and United get through as well (which is likely) then we're in pole position for Europe.
Fantastic effort with the vaults
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
...so far. The season still has a third to go. I dont see us maintaining this run and there will be another dip. It's what Koeman teams do, imo.
We'll end up on 60-62 points and in 7th. Acceptable first season for Koeman. Then he has to get into the top 5/6 next season, and after that (if he's still here) he needs to get top 4/5.
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