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Move on? I've supported Evertin for nearly five decades mate, I've stuck it through the Smith years so you can be sure I'm "moving on" and I'll see it through these years too.

Just sayin' poor old Ron has come out of this looking like a bit of a divvy. "I'll wait to the end of the season to give my good answer". Lol, what does that mean? Does he think conceding less goals is going to settle any debates?

The lad just looks paranoid. All Martinez was doing was passing comment on one negative in an interview where he compliments what's going on.

It just adds to the view I have of Koeman as being a serioulsy massive ego with a pretty modest talent.
When Ron proves you wrong, i hope you will be gracious enough to bend the knee
 
Everton’s Ronald Koeman says Roberto Martínez is ‘a really good talker’
• Martínez highlighted defensive frailties during a TV appearance
• Koeman also defends Ross Barkley’s ‘funny’ goal celebration




Andy Hunter

Friday 10 February 2017 22.30 GMTLast modified on Friday 10 February 2017 23.55 GMT

Ronald Koeman has described Roberto Martínez as “a really good talker” who left him several problems to address at Everton this season.

Martínez was a guest of Sky’s Goals on Sunday programme last weekend when he claimed to have witnessed the same defensive frailties in Everton’s 6-3 defeat of Bournemouth that blighted his reign at Goodison Park. Koeman said he would reserve judgment until the end of the season on what Martínez left him but is bemused by the Belgium manager’s negative comments about an aspect of Everton’s game that has undeniably improved.

“First of all, he is a really good talker, a good communicator and all that, as you say,” the Everton manager said. “He speaks nice and like everybody he is a human being defending himself. But I think it is easy to talk after Bournemouth about the defence. That defence had three clean sheets in a row before Bournemouth [actually two in three]. And finally the numbers, the stats, it is still not the end of the season so I will wait to give my good answer.”

Everton have conceded 27 goals in 24 Premier League matches during Koeman’s first season in charge compared with 34 at the same stage of last term. They have scored three goals fewer, 40 to 43 under Martínez, but are eight points and four places better off than after 24 games of the Catalan coach’s final campaign. Koeman insists defending was not the only problem that required improvement.

The Everton manager, who in January released several players inherited from Martínez, said: “It was not only defence. I remember one or two meetings at the start of the season where I showed what we needed to change. I took clips out of last season, including good clips of the team in ball possession but also clips out of possession because in my opinion there was not always good defensive organisation when an attack broke down.

“A big part was defending set plays – 14 conceded last season was too many. Then you need to know the character of the players, the quality of the players; if you are there with them day by day you get a different idea. Also being more direct instead of a lot of ball possession back to the goalkeeper. Play the ball in the channel … There is more high pressing, trying to press your opponent and not to wait and drop back too much. That takes time and maybe you need different players to play that system. There were several aspects of football I wasn’t happy about.”

Everton travel to Middlesbrough on Saturday unbeaten in seven league games and with Ross Barkley a growing influence on the side’s recent improvement. The England international came in for severe and repeated criticism from Koeman earlier in the season, prompting the 23-year-old to ask his manager why he was being singled out.

"I spoke about this with Ross,” Koeman said. “He mentioned that it is always about him. I said: ‘OK, start to be afraid when they don’t ask about you. Then you need to be afraid. And if the manager is still criticising you as a player then it means he still believes in your qualities. If I don’t talk about you any more than that is when you need to be afraid.’ I understand it is always difficult for him. There are always a lot of comments and questions about him. We had a conversation about this.”

Koeman also defended Barkley’s pre‑goal celebration against Bournemouth last Saturday, when the midfielder raised his arms after rounding the goalkeeper, Artur Boruc, and before converting into an empty net. “I know Ross. It wasn’t disrespect to the opponent for scoring that goal. It was a moment where he felt it’s an easy one. It was funny and it wasn’t disrespectful.” The former Barcelona defender added: “I never did that. I didn’t score easy goals.”
We've read it, Trigger. It was posted about an hour ago. lol
 
Move on? I've supported Evertin for nearly five decades mate, I've stuck it through the Smith years so you can be sure I'm "moving on" and I'll see it through these years too.

Just sayin' poor old Ron has come out of this looking like a bit of a divvy. "I'll wait to the end of the season to give my good answer". Lol, what does that mean? Does he think conceding less goals is going to settle any debates?

The lad just looks paranoid. All Martinez was doing was passing comment on one negative in an interview where he compliments what's going on.

It just adds to the view I have of Koeman as being a serioulsy massive ego with a pretty modest talent.



We needed somebody with ego all good coaches have that, we've had a little bitch for the last 3 years. But can you imagine how bad martinez is when koeman has modest talent......
 
We needed somebody with ego all good coaches have that, we've had a little bitch for the last 3 years. But can you imagine how bad martinez is when koeman has modest talent......
Dirty lad, I've no problem with ego. But the ego has to come AFTER achievement. That's the way it usually works.
 

Dirty lad, I've no problem with ego. But the ego has to come AFTER achievement. That's the way it usually works.

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Tbf, I suspect if this is an interview set up and conducted by Andy Hunter it's a bit of devil making and Koeman has fell into the trap. Hunter is a former Echo hack and no friend of Everton despite the chatter about him "being a blue".

My advice to Koeman would be to take care what journo scum they open up to.
Oh God, no doubt it's a set up. The press are practically begging them to tear into each other, like a little sh*# stirring schoolgirl
 

Move on? I've supported Evertin for nearly five decades mate, I've stuck it through the Smith years so you can be sure I'm "moving on" and I'll see it through these years too.

Just sayin' poor old Ron has come out of this looking like a bit of a divvy. "I'll wait to the end of the season to give my good answer". Lol, what does that mean? Does he think conceding less goals is going to settle any debates?

The lad just looks paranoid. All Martinez was doing was passing comment on one negative in an interview where he compliments what's going on.

It just adds to the view I have of Koeman as being a serioulsy massive ego with a pretty modest talent.
He slapped brown shoes round the chops after the beaut spouted nads last Sunday, end of.
 
Oh God, no doubt it's a set up. The press are practically begging them to tear into each other, like a little sh*# stirring schoolgirl
Hunter is a <bleep stirrer>. Not to be trusted. Koeman would be well advised not to go near ex Echo semi literates like him. He's probably been quoted out of context. You know what these scum are like.
 
What we need is a managerial cv to go with it, starting at Everton.

That we agree on Dave.

Ron will bring us success.

Hunter is a <bleep stirrer>. Not to be trusted. Koeman would be well advised not to go near ex Echo semi literates like him. He's probably been quoted out of context. You know what these scum are like.

Oh no Dave, you're wrong here. Koeman is encouraged to talk as he's pure magic when he does.

Whether he's got a cob on or he's in a jovial mood, talk talk talk. Helps that he's Dutch and they do that anyway.
 

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