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Ronald Koeman discussion

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Why would anyone get bored of a manager being honest and straight up with the fans and media?
Because, no matter how well you do, it becomes stale and it turns off many/most. Even Moyes got it and he was a qualified 'success'.
 
Why would anyone get bored of a manager being honest and straight up with the fans and media?

Exactly! We've had years of moyes looking like gollum and spouting crap that were skint. Then we have a manager who can't Shut up with his boring kak and can't deliver results. Now we have a straight forward no bull won't take bull manager! It's refreshing!
 

Erm sorry nah but if we're playing crap I want him to tell us not try and fluff it. Nothing worse than sugar coating a turd mate.

I'm merely saying it's a novelty. The 'refreshing tell it like it is' stuff.

Ask S'ton fans who've had two years of him if they thought he told it like it was this summer when he assured them he'd be there this season.

It's not an attack on Koeman, it's just the inevitable working out of a process.
 
I'm merely saying it's a novelty. The 'refreshing tell it like it is' stuff.

Ask S'ton fans who've had two years of him if they thought he told it like it was this summer when he assured them he'd be there this season.

It's not an attack on Koeman, it's just the inevitable working out of a process.

You miss Bobbbys lies, bless.
 

Swings and roundabouts:

When Moyes arrived he was feted for being level headed and down to earth...by the end of his time here he was castigated for his negativity.
When Martinez arrived here he was feted for his positivity...by the end of his time here he was castigated as Chemical Ali.
When Koeman arrives here he's feted for his no nonsense attitude....


Very much this.

Last season Bobby was castigated (rightly) for not "getting the best out of our best squad for thirty years".

Today the overwhelming consensus in this parish is that practically the exact same squad is rubbish and needs completely overhauled lol
 
What goes around comes around.

Managerial styles are always refreshing in the first instance. It wont last.


It lasts as long as the results are good.

If we have another two bad seasons the knives will be out for Ronald on here, don't worry about that ;)

Fickle?

Usuns?

No way :Blink:
 
Very much this.

Last season Bobby was castigated (rightly) for not "getting the best out of our best squad for thirty years".

Today the overwhelming consensus in this parish is that practically the exact same squad is rubbish and needs completely overhauled lol
I'm not sure many are wanting a complete overhaul, just most of Martinez transfer mistakes correcting. We need a striker because of Kone/Niasse. We need a Keeper because of Robles/over lengthened career given to Howard. We need a CB because we lost Stones (due to our woeful league record under Martinez and the abject Mori. We needed a wide left player because Martinez played Cleverley there. We needed a midfield destroyer because Besic is basic. But the core of the squad is good, better than 11th anyway, or should been.
 
I'm not sure many are wanting a complete overhaul, just most of Martinez transfer mistakes correcting. We need a striker because of Kone/Niasse. We need a Keeper because of Robles/over lengthened career given to Howard. We need a CB because we lost Stones (due to our woeful league record under Martinez and the abject Mori. We needed a wide left player because Martinez played Cleverley there. We needed a midfield destroyer because Besic is basic. But the core of the squad is good, better than 11th anyway, or should been.


Ian, it is a contradiction in terms to suggest we lost Stones due to "our woeful league record" when he himself was the cornerstone of our defence for most of last season and for almost the entirety of the previous one.

Plus he had slapped in a transfer request at the end of the previous season, suggesting to me at any rate he was gone this summer even if we had done a Leicester.
 

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