Ronald Koeman discussion

[davek]

How did playing the kids work out for us?

The trick is playing them at the right time...Koeman hasn't learned that trick yet it appears.

 

[nsno-chris]

I don't know about you but the derbies ARE our most important games of the season. But this last one's significance was zero for anything other than local pride.

It really isn't that hard to understand once you've got your thinking cap on, honestly it isn't. Try it.

Not the most important game of the season based on a derby. A win there and a win at utd would have greater significance than bragging rights. Something you don't like to acknowledge

 

[Goat]

The trick is playing them at the right time...Koeman hasn't learned that trick yet it appears.

You just said yourself it was an enforced change, in an ideal world he wouldnt have played 2 young lads with less than 10 prem games under their belts in an away Derby.

 

[davek]

So let's get this right, you're embarrassed that Koeman is our manager? How about Martinez then was he ok? Anfield record 1-1. 0-4, 0-4. Or how about Moyes ? Anfield record, a few draws and lots of defeats. In other words all the above you've been embarrassed by except maybe Walter Smith as the last manager to win there, so he must have been brilliant then.

Never mind Anfield record. Martinez had a poor Derby record but at least he took points from them...something this Dutchman hasn't gotten near in two games.

 

[hallamblue]

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You just said yourself it was an enforced change, in an ideal world he wouldnt have played 2 young lads with less than 10 prem games under their belts in an away Derby.

He didn't have to play Pennington. He could have played a flat back four with Holgate at right back

 

[degsy]

They had games in hand.

After Tuesday night we'll be about 11 points off 4th. Truth is we have a tough run in and were never at the races for 4th...and you know as well as I do that if we had closed the gap these bottlers would unravel in no time.

Sadly, experience shows this to be true

 

[Goat]

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He didn't have to play Pennington. He could have played a flat back four with Holgate at right back

It would have been a cricket score.

 

[hallamblue]

Never mind Anfield record. Martinez had a poor Derby record but at least he took points from them...something this Dutchman hasn't gotten near in two games.

Not true. We were 2 minutes away from fluking a draw at Goodison.

 

[d4kyxx]

To be fair I think starting Calvert Lewin was a good thing. He's young and hungry and clearly well regarded by Koeman. Miralles will be gone this summer anyway he's too old for his position now

 

[davek]

Ireland ignored the medical advice they were given. I get that they have a smaller pool of players to choose from than some countries but they were wreckless with one of our players. I'd prefer a manager who has the balls to say when people do something wrong than just ignore it.

We got snotted by Liverpool because they spend a lot more money than us and we had more key players out than they did. If it was just down to Koeman we wouldn't have had such a poor record against them for decades.

I'll admit he could have done stuff better imo, but that's subjective and it's easy to say what someone should have done when no one can prove you right or wrong either way.

The only way we'll compete with teams like Liverpool is through significant investment. Wether we get that or not is down to Moshiri and the board but I'm proud of our manager. He says what he thinks and believes to be right. That takes guts because the majority of people just say what people expect them to say, because that's easier. Wether you agree with his actions or not he's his own man and he isn't afraid to say what he thinks and imo our players respect him for it.

That's fine. You think he's setting a great example and I see a blow hard who's just unravelled embarrassingly for us all in front of a global audience...lashing out at ONeill and Klopp after a derby mauling like some cry arse kid.

 

[hallamblue]

It would have been a cricket score.

If he'd played Barry, Gueye and Davies, sat deep and then played Mirallas up with Lukaku it may have been different, although probably not.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

And here is the truth which dare not speak its name.

I know he divides opinion on here and at times I could cheerfully strangle the bugger, but there is one player on our books whom is the opposite to a "jellyfish" when he plays against the RS.

Kevin Mirallas.

I thought for sure he would have started the game yesterday.

I was even more certain he would have came out to start the second half.

For the life of me I cannot understand why Mirallas was kept sat on the bench for eighty minutes.

Love how you put Dave on the spot with this . Forcing him to say something positive about one of his (many) hated players in order to continue his Koeman feud. Well done sir! Like I say pure comedy gold tonight.

 

[davek]

This is the Koeman thread Dave.

I wish it was the Flavre thread.

 

[Evertonized]

It really annoys me when people say that Koeman hasn't been ruthless enough. He can't do a miracle, he's had two windows with an ageing squad and an average bench (and that's being nice)!! Koeman can't say to every player, you're useless... who's replacing them? He needs time to build.

Everton's first team is good enough for Top 6... our bench is not. For example we lost a DC, and our team downgrades. Pennington looks an amazing prospect, but for a game at Anfield for a 2017 debut, really?

I think Koeman will do another overhall in the coming two windows, making us into a top four challenger. Lets be honest, we are not far off now.

GK - Stekelenburg has failed, Robles was never supposed to be no.1
D - Koeman doesn't seem to rate Jagielka. Expect at least another CB addition
M - It's becoming increasingly obvious that McCarthy will be shipped out
W - Calvert-Lewis playing above Mirallas says everything you need to know, Kevin will be gone
S - Kone, Valencia? The backup is a big issue once again. Lets hope we get someone in and pray that Everton stops Rom leaving.

 

[Goat]

I wish it was the Flavre thread.

Hes done a superb job over there, 7 points clear at 1 point now sitting in 3rd, outstanding job.