Ronald Koeman discussion

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Khalekan said:
Yes, I always felt that the Arsenal and Chelsea games were a free pass for him.....”expected losses” and all that.

The games against Leicester and Watford though.....that has to be the line in the sand for EFC.

As things stand right now I find victory in either of those games totally unimaginable.

Watford leads us into an international break and if results go the way I fear and the club does not act at that point then IMO the prospect of playing in the Championship next season stops looking like an ominous but distant threat and becomes a distinct possibility.

Moshiri is looking like a man playing his fiddle as Koeman sets a torch to Rome.
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And that is part of the bigger issue at the club. It makes you question not only the mindset of the club itself but the actual ambition of it. So far it seems purely financial gain with little of it shown for the team.

All well and good questioning the manager but you have to start questioning the board as well and where their priorities lie.
 
Incredible hes still here,seems like the everton board think a win on wednesday unlikely as it is,will change peoples minds etc about him,win or not he should be gone after yesterday even for the ones backing him,should have gone after last 2 week break.
we are just not losing but hardly look like scoring while conceeding for fun,been same all season, even in the wins we had they were pretty unconvincing
 
Toffe3m4n said:


John Collins there, the prime example of the kind of people we need to keep well away from the club. The fact that this bloke actually represented Everton on the pitch at one point in time is shocking..

On the flipside, Andy Gray has gone up in my estimations for putting him in his place.
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Collins knows nothing of this club. One of my most hated players. Talented but didn't give a toss. No matter what anyone thinks of Andy Grays mouth, he's a winner. Would take AG all day over that loser Collins.
 

AdaBrummieblue said:
Collins knows nothing of this club. One of my most hated players. Talented but didn't give a toss. No matter what anyone thinks of Andy Grays mouth, he's a winner. Would take AG all day over that loser Collins.
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Used to talk about himself in the third person, the utter whiff.

I'm not surprised about the board's unwillingness to sack him at this point, they've publicly reiterated their full support for two weeks running now.
 
Ring master said:
Incredible hes still here,seems like the everton board think a win on wednesday unlikely as it is,will change peoples minds etc about him,win or not he should be gone after yesterday even for the ones backing him,should have gone after last 2 week break.
we are just not losing but hardly look like scoring while conceeding for fun,been same all season, even in the wins we had they were pretty unconvincing
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Pretty much it.

We struggle to score for the best part and can't stop leaking goals so ultimately there isn't anything there for a foundation. At least if we were grinding out 0-0 s at the minute you could point to where we can grow from, or scoring for fun like Liverpool but there is literally nothing to build upon other than hope it works.
 
I'm in two minds about this. I went into the 'get rid' camp recently, but then what? We can put Unsworth in charge, and
who knows, he could be the man, or at least bring about a temporary run of results and get us out of trouble, but it's
a gamble.
I keep hearing pundits saying that we have bought good players and that Koeman should be given time to get them
organised. Peter Shmeichel was adamant before the game that he shouldn't be sacked and made a strong case for him.
I really don't know what we should do, but I know it's getting serious.
 

Jeff Jones said:
I'm in two minds about this. I went into the 'get rid' camp recently, but then what? We can put Unsworth in charge, and
who knows, he could be the man, or at least bring about a temporary run of results and get us out of trouble, but it's
a gamble.
I keep hearing pundits saying that we have bought good players and that Koeman should be given time to get them
organised. Peter Shmeichel was adamant before the game that he shouldn't be sacked and made a strong case for him.
I really don't know what we should do, but I know it's getting serious.
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I'd rather take a gamble than stick with something that we know will fail.
 
AdaBrummieblue said:
Collins knows nothing of this club. One of my most hated players. Talented but didn't give a toss. No matter what anyone thinks of Andy Grays mouth, he's a winner. Would take AG all day over that loser Collins.
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Andy Gray, despite some of the stuff he says off the pitch, always gave everything for Everton whilst on it

Never liked Collins. Someone should pull him up on how awful a job he did at Celtic whilst assisting Ronny Deila

The day we go to Collins for advice is the day we shut the club down entirely

Smug, gutless baw sack
 

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