Ross Barkley

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Zidane used to get stuck in, he was one of the best snides going.

Just because hes a creative playmaker doesn't mean he can't get stuck in, some of the worlds best excel at that side of it.



And for what its worth im not one saying he should run around like a headless chicken, just a few times when hes 5 yards off an opponent, press them so they Don't have all the time in the world
Theres an old saying in football, and its true...'you've got to earn the right to play'.
 
It's Moyes fault - gives away a pen at Blackburn and then doesn't play him..
It's Warnocks fault, didn't trust him with responsibilty
It's Hodgson's fault - he shouted at him once
It's Martinez fault , he's coaching all the talent out if him
It's the players fault, they don't make the right runs for him.

Christ. The lad isn't a kid anymore, he needs to take responsibilty himself now. Dreadful work shy performance today.
 

I've stuck up for Ross from day one and I'm not going to give up on him yet. Even last season I was sticking up for him, even though he was getting slated and people on here selling him for 10mil.

Even after his 1st season, I felt you wouldn't see him at his best until he was 24/25. And I still stand by that. He's been compared on here to gazza Gerard lampard scholes. Now I know he's a way off these players yet, but all of them were inconsistent at Ross's age. Lampard played four full years at West Ham before he got his Chelsea move at 23 . I remember seeing him for England under 21's when he was 20/21 and thinking what was all the fuse about.
Scholes didn't really become an England regular till he was 24.
Gazza had 3/4 yrs at Newcastle before he moved to Spurs in 88 and didn't really get in the England team, until just before the 90 World Cup.
He was amazing in the 91 season and gazza was 25.

A lot of people have mentioned about Ross not being the brightest and this holding him back. This maybe the case. Today he played deeper and this is another thing, him playing in loads of positions. I don't think he's a natural number 10 and would like to see him deeper, not as deep as today though.

Because he played really deep today, linggard was really close to him and when he got the ball it was easy for him to get tight. I'm sure we all were shouting at the tv for him to move and find space. If we can see this why isn't the manager coaching this. Why isn't he side on when he receives the ball. Or isn't looking to pull his marker out of position. If he hasn't got the brains to work this out surely the coaches should.
The guy is a marked man in nearly every game know.

I've said for 6 months now, he needs a new, manger and a tough one if he wants to become a really great player. Martinez has been great letting him grow and make mistakes. But he needs to kick on now. And needs someone to tell him a few home truths when he has a poor game.
Keep the faith
 

I've stuck up for Ross from day one and I'm not going to give up on him yet. Even last season I was sticking up for him, even though he was getting slated and people on here selling him for 10mil.

Even after his 1st season, I felt you wouldn't see him at his best until he was 24/25. And I still stand by that. He's been compared on here to gazza Gerard lampard scholes. Now I know he's a way off these players yet, but all of them were inconsistent at Ross's age. Lampard played four full years at West Ham before he got his Chelsea move at 23 . I remember seeing him for England under 21's when he was 20/21 and thinking what was all the fuse about.
Scholes didn't really become an England regular till he was 24.
Gazza had 3/4 yrs at Newcastle before he moved to Spurs in 88 and didn't really get in the England team, until just before the 90 World Cup.
He was amazing in the 91 season and gazza was 25.

A lot of people have mentioned about Ross not being the brightest and this holding him back. This maybe the case. Today he played deeper and this is another thing, him playing in loads of positions. I don't think he's a natural number 10 and would like to see him deeper, not as deep as today though.

Because he played really deep today, linggard was really close to him and when he got the ball it was easy for him to get tight. I'm sure we all were shouting at the tv for him to move and find space. If we can see this why isn't the manager coaching this. Why isn't he side on when he receives the ball. Or isn't looking to pull his marker out of position. If he hasn't got the brains to work this out surely the coaches should.
The guy is a marked man in nearly every game know.

I've said for 6 months now, he needs a new, manger and a tough one if he wants to become a really great player. Martinez has been great letting him grow and make mistakes. But he needs to kick on now. And needs someone to tell him a few home truths when he has a poor game.
Keep the faith
Out of that lot though, I would say Scholes had something special about him at 20-21 and Gazza certainly had something about him around that age too. Gerrard and Lampard are typical English midfielders, intelligent players that come into their own in their mid 20s. The frustration with Ross is that he has all the ability in the world to be special but lacks that common sense. I honestly think he still has nerves playing in front of crowds, it looks like the occasion gets to him IMO. I think within the next two seasons we will start seeing his ability, hopefully with a new manager who will give him the right guidance and coaching.
 
I don't know who you think you were watching lately. He's allowed to have a quiet or bad game evey now and then.

The lad is an incredible talent. I think people have been spoiled seeing the likes of Messi and Ronaldo ripping teams in the (crap) La Liga and expecting it from RB.

If he improves as much next year as he has this year we'll have a world beater. Right now hes not there yet but still for me our best midfielder. He'd cost a lot to replace even at his current level.
 
Seems to get played on a different position week in week out, today he was a CDM but play kept bypassing him as Stones looks for a Hollywood ball most of the time.

He needs stability, tactics and confidence, when they're all in place the lad's a world beater.
 

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