2017/18 Ross Barkley

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He wasn't talking about you..

The point stands however

Thomas is insinuating that anyone not 100% taking Koeman's side on this one has an agenda, which obviously isn't true

There's a very small minority of posters who will have a go at Koeman for anything and are using this as another excuse, but most people saying that they think Ross is a good player aren't saying it to slate the manager

They happen to be saying it because they actually think he's a good player. That doesn't mean they think he's "Messi", it just means they think he's good and they'd like us to retain him, which is perfectly reasonable

 

[Barnfred 55]

A very sensible post, Fred.

And yes, I agree.

Once in the team, the press are very ready to scapegoat our guys......Jags versus Uruguay being the prime example.

Slippy was like the rubber man and let an easily cleared ball drift over his head but it was Jags who copped the blame from the press for being"out of position" as Suarez scored.

And that of course is a whole different debate to whether or not playing for EFC inhibits a fellow's chances of actually playing for England.

I didn't realise we were second only to Spurs in the amount of new caps for England this century, with ten.

Let me see if I can name them off the top of my head.

Ross Barkley, obviously as this is his thread

Then....Wayne, Baines, Rodwell, Jags, Ossie, Stones all for sure.

Then AJ (PALACE), Beattie (SOUTHAMPTON) and Richard Wright (ARSENAL)?

Ball (Michael) Jeffers (Frannie) Lescott (Joleon)

 

[Barnfred 55]

Please come back and be our striker Ross

Ross has got all the physical attributes and skill to be an absolutely boss striker.

But can you ever see it happening?. His movement just isn't good enough, both in the box and in general play. He'd be the most static striker ever.

 

[msb]

Is he still here?

 

[hktoffee]

A very sensible post, Fred.

And yes, I agree.

Once in the team, the press are very ready to scapegoat our guys......Jags versus Uruguay being the prime example.

Slippy was like the rubber man and let an easily cleared ball drift over his head but it was Jags who copped the blame from the press for being"out of position" as Suarez scored.

And that of course is a whole different debate to whether or not playing for EFC inhibits a fellow's chances of actually playing for England.

I didn't realise we were second only to Spurs in the amount of new caps for England this century, with ten.

Let me see if I can name them off the top of my head.

Ross Barkley, obviously as this is his thread

Then....Wayne, Baines, Rodwell, Jags, Ossie, Stones all for sure.

Then AJ, Beattie and Richard Wright?

This is more down to the manager not England.

I believe Fat Sam and Southgate do not fancy Everton. But we will see. Maybe Southgate will call up our new players this time but some of his call up in the past was terrifying.

 

[blueblue]

I think it is a pity the Barkley feels he needs to leave. There probably never was a better time for him to stay at the club and help push for a top four spot.

I have heard so many "reasons " why he wants to leave, but usually in these situations the real reasons are rarely known publicly.

If he is to leave it will probably be to one of three clubs, Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea and would he be going to any one of those clubs any more a definite starter in the team than he would at Everton and is the current project at Everton so much less exciting than those clubs?

 

[KaiserEFC]

I hear Ross is lying low from corrupt Feds after he shot up a load of wise guys with his Tommy gun so he could sell their bootleg Whiskey in his Wavertree speakeasy.

Public enemy number 1.

 

[Tubey]

And when a player want to leave and people want to use it as a stick to beat the manager with as they have an agenda with them, they suddenly become Messi overnight.

Hilarious when that happens!

There's literally one 'people' on here this could apply to.

If applying it to anyone else, this post is complete nonsense.

 

[Khalekan]

Ball (Michael) Jeffers (Frannie) Lescott (Joleon)

Cheers, Fred

 

[a bell maul]

I hear Ross is lying low from corrupt Feds after he shot up a load of wise guys with his Tommy gun so he could sell their bootleg Whiskey in his Wavertree speakeasy.

Public enemy number 1.

@CRIMHEAD will not be amused with your gangster allusions...

 

[a bell maul]

I think it is a pity the Barkley feels he needs to leave. There probably never was a better time for him to stay at the club and help push for a top four spot.

I have heard so many "reasons " why he wants to leave, but usually in these situations the real reasons are rarely known publicly.

If he is to leave it will probably be to one of three clubs, Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea and would he be going to any one of those clubs any more a definite starter in the team than he would at Everton and is the current project at Everton so much less exciting than those clubs?

...what have you heard mate?

 

[CRIMHEAD]

@CRIMHEAD will not be amused with your gangster allusions...

At least that one had a Tommy Gun reference.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

Even if it's Koeman, can't help but think Ross might find it enjoyable to play with better teammates. Wonder if Rooney can work on him. Still believe Ronnie is spot on in his criticisms. Needs to be more decisive, higher up the pitch, stop holding the ball forever. I wonder if the poor quality around him was driving some of that behavior.

Just wishful thinking. But we should nit be selling him for 20M. Rooney cannot be running 11K every night. If we are going to play that 4-2-3-1 lineup, Ross can slot in out right rather nicely. Rotate Rooney, Siggy, Ross, Klaassen, maybe Davies, that's a pretty good cast of midfielders.

 

[Tel001]

Yes his mighty 5 goals and 8 assists a season will just be impossible to replace.

As will his constant bad decision making and losing of possession.

How will we cope I wonder.

He is right in a way though.. we could have used a ball carrier.. someone to take us up the pitch... only problem is.. when we move up the pitch then ross decides to pass it to their players or tries a cruyff turn in the centre circle and loses possession... they would have torn through us all night and ended up scoring 3 or 4

 

[bicycleheader]

I am a gangster and I would like to go on record as saying we have no problem with Ross, and the situation is all because of his fathead manager Golf Lundgren