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Obviously both Dallaglio and Johns were done for recreational drugs but I'd be amazed if performance enhancers weren't rife. Human beings are human beings, are we really to believe that athletes in sports such as cycling and track and field are fallible whereas those in rugby, football, tennis etc. are saints?
I mean Juventus were embroiled in a nandrolone issue during the 90's. Their doctor was jailed but none of the players done for it. Considering the likes of Zidane, Vialli, Del Piero and Baggio were at the club at the time, can they be regarded as clean? Why if the doctor has been found guilty are the players not stringently tested? Since then Edgar Davids, Jaap Stam and Frank de Boer have all had bans for nandrolone. All have been welcomed back into the sport.
Around the time of the Juve doping issue, the players at Parma were found to have high levels of haematocrit, regarded as a sure sign of EPO use. A quick read of the Marco Pantani biography reveals how rampant doping is in Italian sport.
In 2006 cycling was rocked by the Operation Puerto case that saw the likes of Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso banned from the sport and cycling washed its linen very publically. Of the 200 or so athletes named in the sting, only 39 were cyclists. What's happened to the other 160 or so athletes from other sports? Le Monde had reported in December 2006 that they had possession of documents of Fuentes detailing "seasonal preparation plans" for Spanish football clubs FC Barcelona and Real Madrid. Fuentes, the doctor involved in it, has been indignant that only cyclists have been named and it's widely believed that footballers and tennis players were regulars at his establishment. Hope they've got a mighty big rug.
I mean Juventus were embroiled in a nandrolone issue during the 90's. Their doctor was jailed but none of the players done for it. Considering the likes of Zidane, Vialli, Del Piero and Baggio were at the club at the time, can they be regarded as clean? Why if the doctor has been found guilty are the players not stringently tested? Since then Edgar Davids, Jaap Stam and Frank de Boer have all had bans for nandrolone. All have been welcomed back into the sport.
Around the time of the Juve doping issue, the players at Parma were found to have high levels of haematocrit, regarded as a sure sign of EPO use. A quick read of the Marco Pantani biography reveals how rampant doping is in Italian sport.
In 2006 cycling was rocked by the Operation Puerto case that saw the likes of Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso banned from the sport and cycling washed its linen very publically. Of the 200 or so athletes named in the sting, only 39 were cyclists. What's happened to the other 160 or so athletes from other sports? Le Monde had reported in December 2006 that they had possession of documents of Fuentes detailing "seasonal preparation plans" for Spanish football clubs FC Barcelona and Real Madrid. Fuentes, the doctor involved in it, has been indignant that only cyclists have been named and it's widely believed that footballers and tennis players were regulars at his establishment. Hope they've got a mighty big rug.
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It's hard isn't it. I got into cycling due to Marco Pantani. Seeing him climb a mountain was one of the most exhilerating things I've seen in any sport. The great thing about sport is seeing breathtaking performances. Your Tiger Woods, Roger Federers. But you want to believe they're clean don't you? I would have added Lance Armstrong to the list, and I did love watching him ride, but when pretty much every one of your rivals has failed tests and you pounded them all into the dirt, does that make you some kind of superman or guilty by association?
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indurain did it (pounded everyone into the dirt) , and chris boardman kicked his arse in stages (time trial, just like how millar was/is competative). he (chris) has an olympic medal.
i can follow the 'surgery' of snooker, and its similar for golf, such sports dont require marathon athletes.
football players from the 60's and 70's have admitted being fed amphetamins that the 'managers/coaches' thought would accentuate their concentration levels.
there isnt the money to test every athlete every day. so...
i can follow the 'surgery' of snooker, and its similar for golf, such sports dont require marathon athletes.
football players from the 60's and 70's have admitted being fed amphetamins that the 'managers/coaches' thought would accentuate their concentration levels.
there isnt the money to test every athlete every day. so...
Was Indurain clean though? Bjarne Riis has admitted to doping but never failed a test. Boardman managed it in shorter, one day stages, much in the same way that Brad Wiggins can do so today. I suspect most of the British track cyclists are clean too. A full tour is a different matter though. I guess in some ways it reflects the old quote "I only dope when I need to; how often do you need to?; all the time". The Tour is so gruelling and the public do want great spectacles that it encourages doping.
Golf isn't immune either. Tiger Woods has revolutionised the physical aspect of the sport. The guy's pretty built and there are many rumours that doping is rife as players attempt to catch up with him physically.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2007/jul/19/topstories3.mainsection
Even snooker players have been known to use beta blockers to calm nerves.
Golf isn't immune either. Tiger Woods has revolutionised the physical aspect of the sport. The guy's pretty built and there are many rumours that doping is rife as players attempt to catch up with him physically.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2007/jul/19/topstories3.mainsection
Even snooker players have been known to use beta blockers to calm nerves.
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