Sack race 23/24 season

[twoblue]

He'll either go just before we play them or...the outside bet...after we beat them

Neither have United.

How much longer is ten Hag going to get then, although I have no idea who would replace him

There isn’t really a super manager left to try. Eddie Howe is now a big time name but wouldn’t leave his current post.
I actually feel they should ten hag 4 years… they should clear out the big names like Rashford (who’s body language is so low and prob would do wonders on the continent) and then start again.
Ironically we have been like a pound shop Man Utd since moyes left for them. Constant manager changes, false dawns and terrible spending. Difference is they have had an extra zero in terms of money spent (and prob games won each season)

 

[Cool_Blue]

reading some of the ‘experts’ comments, Neville, Morrison etc, moaning about the players attitudes, it sounds like he’s lost the dressing room to me

 

[PhilM]

reading some of the ‘experts’ comments, Neville, Morrison etc, moaning about the players attitudes, it sounds like he’s lost the dressing room to me

He might have, and that may be entirely or partly down to his own actions. However, there's a fair few questions about the characters in the dressing room.

For me, their squad just doesn't feel like it's a group of players who you can rely on; you don't get a sense that they are a hard-working bunch as a whole.

As others have pointed out, it's similar to the problems we had here for so long.

 

[degsy]

Quite why anyone thinks just changing the manager at Man Utd would do the trick, I’ve no idea. They are a basket case now, the Glazers are slowly destroying them.

We can but hope

 

[COYBL25]

He might have, and that may be entirely or partly down to his own actions. However, there's a fair few questions about the characters in the dressing room.

For me, their squad just doesn't feel like it's a group of players who you can rely on; you don't get a sense that they are a hard-working bunch as a whole.

As others have pointed out, it's similar to the problems we had here for so long.

They look like a collection of individuals, rather than a team.

They appear to have bought players, due to their " names ", rather than where they would fit into the team and how they would blend into the managers style of play.

In saying that, the seeming bad attitude and overall lack of effort from some of the payers, was there long before Ten Haag and has seen a good few managers off.

Looking from the outside in, letting De Gea go was a massive mistake, as he was literally the only thing keeping them together for a good few seasons.

As you say, the situation they`re now in, almost mirrors us under Koeman - a load of average players, they paid way too much for, with massive wages and contracts, who they`ll never get rid of, unless they take a massive hit.

 

[PhilM]

They look like a collection of individuals, rather than a team.

They appear to have bought players, due to their " names ", rather than where they would fit into the team and how they would blend into the managers style of play.

In saying that, the seeming bad attitude and overall lack of effort from some of the payers, was there long before Ten Haag and has seen a good few managers off.

Looking from the outside in, letting De Gea go was a massive mistake, as he was literally the only thing keeping them together for a good few seasons.

As you say, the situation they`re now in, almost mirrors us under Koeman - a load of average players, they paid way too much for, with massive wages and contracts, who they`ll never get rid of, unless they take a massive hit.

They also have a fair few of players who simply don't track back. In today's modern game, you need your wide forwards/wingers being part of the unit.

Antony doesn't fit the bill, Rashord's body language is once again shocking, Martial should have been booted years ago and Garnarcho is a prima-donna.

Sancho doesn't fit the bill either. Casemiro's legs look to have gone in recent weeks, so you've got a team who aren't going to play like ETH wants.

De Gea going and not getting a club in the meantime is a real odd one because, while not perfect, he was still a very good shot stopper.

 

[DavidH]

I do like listening to Gary Neville whine on about management and "Unaaarted" when he was absolutely abysmal at Valencia and everyone in football despises him.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

There isn’t really a super manager left to try. Eddie Howe is now a big time name but wouldn’t leave his current post.
I actually feel they should ten hag 4 years… they should clear out the big names like Rashford (who’s body language is so low and prob would do wonders on the continent) and then start again.
Ironically we have been like a pound shop Man Utd since moyes left for them. Constant manager changes, false dawns and terrible spending. Difference is they have had an extra zero in terms of money spent (and prob games won each season)

It's actually not a terrible shout.

Their squad is broken, as the last few pages have described. They need to sell the guys that don't want to be there and re-build with lesser "names" and create a team.

They, and Chelsea, are just a richer, more recently successful version of us at this point.

It's probably not because of Dyche, but b/c of our financial situation, but you get the feeling we are more of a team now and have shipped out most of the dead weight/people who don't want to be here. The only guy we had to sell to make ends meet that ideally we could have kept was Richarlison, but we had to sell him for his sake as well as ours b/c he was a one man team for a few years, and we promised him his deserved move. It's a pity we couldn't have shown more ambition while he was here.

But fingers crossed, we are moving in the right direction

 

[sd_1992]

Quite why anyone thinks just changing the manager at Man Utd would do the trick, I’ve no idea. They are a basket case now, the Glazers are slowly destroying them.

Honestly one of the laziest ideas in football.

They spend more money than basically any team in the world, have next to no involvement with the football side of things and the club is probably the best run club commercially in the world.

There are very few clubs where footballing philosophy comes from the owners.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Honestly one of the laziest ideas in football.

They spend more money than basically any team in the world, have next to no involvement with the football side of things and the club is probably the best run club commercially in the world.

There are very few clubs where footballing philosophy comes from the owners.

Ok mate, they’re doing great.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Honestly one of the laziest ideas in football.

They spend more money than basically any team in the world, have next to no involvement with the football side of things and the club is probably the best run club commercially in the world.

There are very few clubs where footballing philosophy comes from the owners.

Stability comes from the top though. Man Utd have a massive ground that is falling to bits and needs a lot of work, they have a training ground which needs massively updating, Glazers have promised but never done any of it. They may spend money but there is no plan there, they had a guy who worked in a bank as a DoF in Woodward, then when they did get someone who could sort out their problems and put a proper strategy in place (Ragnick) they made him a first team coach instead of doing what he is good at, hence his comments about the club needing "open heart surgery" If I look at their squad there are probably 10-12 players I would seriously bin off tomorrow if it was me in charge.

 

[Encoder]

Honestly one of the laziest ideas in football.

They spend more money than basically any team in the world, have next to no involvement with the football side of things and the club is probably the best run club commercially in the world.

There are very few clubs where footballing philosophy comes from the owners.

But they are the ones who should be employing those who do affect the footballing side.

After our years of pain under Moshiri I'm surprised anyone can think that simply plowing (or, misspending) a load of money into a club is good ownership.

 

[sd_1992]

But they are the ones who should be employing those who do affect the footballing side.

After our years of pain under Moshiri I'm surprised anyone can think that simply plowing (or, misspending) a load of money into a club is good ownership.

I think the difference is that where we have a good director of football who had to suffer an interfering owner, the opposite is true at United.

Functionally they probably don’t do a lot different to Liverpool’s owners except that they stumbled upon Edward’s and Klopp and United didn’t.

The similarity between us and united is the constant hiring of crap yes men as managers.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

United looks at a player and buys them based on how many shirts they can sell. Whether or not they fit into the squad isn't really important.

 

[summerisle]

When I read his name I always think of an exorcism.