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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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I am convinced that Fat Sam's aim was to finish as high as possible and getting eighth place is going to into his cv as an achievement.

Instead of preparing for next season by giving starting places for a run of games to Baninge, Klaasen and Vlasic months ago, he stuck
with the most un-creative midfield I have seen for years. Watching Davies plays makes me pine for Pemberton. Morgan is so one-paced and negative - why not play Benny, he has a future at the club.

Can we blame him though? He was bought here to keep us up in panic. Nothing more. Mission completed.

Match after match, the entertainment has been awful and he has not cared. Scrape a point and the odd win. No style. No logic.

To his defense, and I hate having anything positive to write about him, the squad is completely imbalanced and has no flair to play any decent football. What style could he/we play when not one midfielder can hold the ball and run at the opposition causing fear?

Sam and Lee can collect their millions and leave asap.
Amen. Allardyce, Lee, Shakespeare and Walsh can all go. No more British dross.
 
The difference, we may have still finished 8th, but at the last game of the season the stadium would have been full for the lap of honour, Guardiola wouldn't have disrespected us fans, he wouldn't have thrown players/staff under bus for every defeat, we would have been talking about next season under Guardiola, and the biggest thing, he wouldn't have made himself out to be some sort of saviour, need I go on?


But the reality is, the board could never have attracted Guardiola. That’s my point. All this OTT hatred towards Allardyce diverts attention from the big issue. 30 years of failure under an inept board.
 

The one positive once Rooney and allardyce and co leave is that there is foundation's for something to actually be built here. As much as we call the players for everything, there is lots of potential for a better manager.

Senior players - tosun, niasse (sub) , Walcott, gueye , (old) schneiderlin, Coleman, pickford, siggurdson are all good enough to build a team with. Maybe not all at the same time but there is talent in there to start to bridge a gap between us and arsenal in the near future.

Young players - Davies, lookman, vlasic, begnamine, Kenny, joe Williams, holgate plus anyone else in the academy are a potential for the future. May not all make it but there is potential there for good players to come through over the next 3 years

Plus in sandro and klassen we have unknown quantities. They may be moved on in the summer, they may demand to be moved on but a new manager could get something out of them if come September they chose to stay.

So the rebuild job isn't as major as it seems, new players need to come in and a new manager needs to implement their plans on the squad. So on the brink of a new beginning again at the club, probably time to think positive again because otherwise we will be dead inside
I admire your optimism. I hope you are right. A different manager and a couple of different faces and a better attitude and who knows how this season could have ended up.

All I am certain about is that it's not Big Scam who can turn it around otherwise we'd be seeing that already on the pitch.
 
Since he, apparently done his job by keeping us up. He has had at least 10 games to try and give us a half decent performance, but he just can't do it. It seems he's now pissing in every Everton fans' cornflakes by putting out that terrible team/tactics yesterday. Please just leave as the hatred is just going to build, and not just towards sam.
 
The thing is mate, the players I mentioned aren't rubbish, just utilised poorly by the management this season. For example gueye is fantastic at running around and breaking play up. Same as kante does, that's his job. So asking gueye to do more than that is basically a waste of time, like asking a striker to come back and defend constantly.

Davies is a forward playing midfielder with energy and has been asked to sit back in his own half with hardly any movement ahead of him when he does get the ball. Plus he is only in his first full season this year, personally not expecting him to control a midfield especially when his manager is playing for a 0-0 at half time every week.

Tosun has proven he can score goals. Might not be world class but has had very little service and again no movement for him. Bellamy told a story recently where at Newcastle, shearer was knackered without pace so robson signed players to do the movement around him to allow him to be a striker, to stay around the box. Shearer bagged over 30 goals that season as a result. When have we ever played to tosun strengths under allardyce?

Pickford is a 24 year old keeper. Again the lad could be our number 1 for the next 15 years and you judge him after 1?

So please go on ;)
I'm liking the way you think. A good manager would come in and see the positives and set up to play to them. A great manager would do the same and also ruthlessly replace the weaknesses in his squad.

How simple is this management lark?
 
Since he, apparently done his job by keeping us up. He has had at least 10 games to try and give us a half decent performance, but he just can't do it. It seems he's now pissing in every Everton fans' cornflakes by putting out that terrible team/tactics yesterday. Please just leave as the hatred is just going to build, and not just towards sam.
This! Whether you believed we were in a relegation battle or not when we brought him in we've been safe for months but he's persisted in playing scrappy survival style football. He's been gifted 50m worth of attacking talent in Walcott and Tosun and he's had our first choice fullbacks back from injury so he's had more to work with than Unsie. The man's level is and always will be fire-fighting at the bottom of the table.
 

Judging by his irritation in the press conference after the game he is nailed on gone this week. I've never seen him so uncomfortable. Times up for Sam.
 
8th.
You all would have bitten Bill's hand off to finish 8th when Sam took over.
Some were saying top half would have been a stretch.
He's done all right with a Jan window, minimal outlay and our current bunch of wasters.
I agree he's done alright in terms of points. But his performances have been a disgrace. 6th was there for the taking, yet he simply surrendered so many games as, it appears, he was simply told to "save" us. As if. Our squad is miles better than Burnley, yet we finish clearly behind them. Also look at the chances created, shots on target, goals stats. They are shameful. So yes, he has done fine for me as I was sick to the bottom of my stomach thinking we're going down, I'd wish him well and say he's done alright but should have done much better with what was available to him.
 
We could have done far better. Can he please sod off now?

I will give him kudos for signing Walcott and Tosun though, Tosun is one of our few signings who hasn't been a complete embarrassment.
 

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