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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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I find it arrogant and actually irrelevant. Get on with your job and stop making it even harder for us to get behind you.
Not defending him but the quote might have been in answer to a direct question about Silva, which looks a bit odd out of context.

Either way I'm hoping here's here to prove a point, that he's not the manager we all think he is... that of back handers and relegation battles...and that maybe he's a decent manager. we're probably his last club appointment.
 
I'm no fan of his but his bullishness is a major reason why he has managed to save different sides from relegation.

Keeping a team up isn't that complicated. All the teams at the bottom end will follow the same principle: keep it tight at the back, pick up clean sheets, and try and make the most of set plays.

What separates Allardyce's teams is his self-belief that it will work transcends to the players. Compare it to Moyes whose negativity and excuse making spreads and creates a culture of apathy at his club. Allardyce will keep spirits high so even if a bad result comes they'll brush it off and go again.

Is he a long term fit? Absolutely not. But he's here for a reason and what you see is what you get.
 
Not defending him but the quote might have been in answer to a direct question about Silva, which looks a bit odd out of context.

Either way I'm hoping here's here to prove a point, that he's not the manager we all think he is... that of back handers and relegation battles...and that maybe he's a decent manager. we're probably his last club appointment.

Heres the context.

Sam Allardyce got on the front foot immediately as he started his reign as Everton manager with a withering putdown of Marco Silva.

The 63-year-old looked at ease at USM Finch Farm on Friday, describing the task he has been given as arguably the biggest of his club career and stating his ambition to stay beyond the end of a contract that runs until June 2019.

Farhad Moshiri, Everton’s major shareholder, returned to Allardyce after Watford rejected a £10million offer for Silva, who has received significant praise since he arrived in England for his work at Hull and Vicarage Road.

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Sam Allardyce has defended his record as a manager and put himself above other candidates

The theory is that Allardyce will leave Everton next summer and the Portuguese – who will then have no release clause – will be appointed.

But when that issue was raised with the former England manager, he dismantled the claims of Silva while seizing the opportunity to firmly state his own abilities – and why it grates that his critics are quick to pigeonhole his style.

‘Let’s put it this way,’ said Allardyce. If you look at my track record, why wouldn’t I be here irrespective of Marco Silva? I have every respect for Marco Silva and I am not criticising Marco Silva but Marco Silva’s track record has got no comparison whatsoever with mine.

‘He got Hull City relegated (last season). That is perception. We have not to live in perception at our level. We have to live in reality and the reality is that I was spoken to. I pulled out and then I came back in because they felt it was the right thing to do.

‘I don’t know what went on before with Marco Silva whether he was before me, after me or in between me. All I know is they (Moshiri and dealmaker Keith Harris) came for me and I said “yes”. I said “yes” when I was on holiday in Dubai.

46E08D6F00000578-0-image-a-17_1512165837186.jpg


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The former England manager has signed at deal at Goodison Park running until June 2019

‘The club, I think, wanted to give David Unsworth the job, first and foremost, before me and Silva. That’s how it is. I don’t worry. You can’t put all your eggs in one basket, do you know what I mean? You can’t say “I’m going to go for one manager and that’s it”. You have to see what is out there.’

It could not be said Evertonians were thrilled by the prospect of Allardyce succeeding Ronald Koeman and he is well aware he faces a challenge to turn public opinion. What was noticeable at USM Finch Farm, though, was a sense of calm had been restored after five weeks of turmoil.

Allardyce tried to remove some preconceptions about him, insisting he would stick to the club’s tradition and play youngsters from the Academy while deploy an attractive style. He was lavish in his praise of Wayne Rooney, while realistic about Ross Barkley, whose contract runs out in six months.

‘The first thing he needs to do is get fit,’ said Allardyce.

But what was most clear was his enthusiasm for the challenge. Deep down, he knew retirement was not right after he finished with Crystal Palace last summer and though Everton have been in a difficult position, this is not the kind of salvage act with which he has come to be associated.

46C7AE5600000578-0-image-a-15_1512165819448.jpg


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Allardyce hit back at the mention of Marco Silva and outlined his superior record as a manager

‘Our relationship and our success determines how long you stay as a manager,’ said Allardyce, who has been joined by Sammy Lee, Craig Shakespeare, head of performance Ryland Morgans and will soon have goalkeeper coach Martyn Margetson on board.

‘Contracts are important to start off with but we all live with the fact if you don’t get results then your job gets under threat. Five managers gone already? That’s a quarter of the Premier League managers gone after 14 games. If you don’ t get results, you don’t keep your job.

‘It is only the players who are going to get us out of trouble. Hopefully with the backroom staff’s guidance, we will give them the right tools to do that.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...ce-takes-swipe-Marco-Silva.html#ixzz503SLg944
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
 
Heres the context.

Sam Allardyce got on the front foot immediately as he started his reign as Everton manager with a withering putdown of Marco Silva.

The 63-year-old looked at ease at USM Finch Farm on Friday, describing the task he has been given as arguably the biggest of his club career and stating his ambition to stay beyond the end of a contract that runs until June 2019.

Farhad Moshiri, Everton’s major shareholder, returned to Allardyce after Watford rejected a £10million offer for Silva, who has received significant praise since he arrived in England for his work at Hull and Vicarage Road.

46E08D0700000578-0-image-a-16_1512165834113.jpg


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Sam Allardyce has defended his record as a manager and put himself above other candidates

The theory is that Allardyce will leave Everton next summer and the Portuguese – who will then have no release clause – will be appointed.

But when that issue was raised with the former England manager, he dismantled the claims of Silva while seizing the opportunity to firmly state his own abilities – and why it grates that his critics are quick to pigeonhole his style.

‘Let’s put it this way,’ said Allardyce. If you look at my track record, why wouldn’t I be here irrespective of Marco Silva? I have every respect for Marco Silva and I am not criticising Marco Silva but Marco Silva’s track record has got no comparison whatsoever with mine.

‘He got Hull City relegated (last season). That is perception. We have not to live in perception at our level. We have to live in reality and the reality is that I was spoken to. I pulled out and then I came back in because they felt it was the right thing to do.

‘I don’t know what went on before with Marco Silva whether he was before me, after me or in between me. All I know is they (Moshiri and dealmaker Keith Harris) came for me and I said “yes”. I said “yes” when I was on holiday in Dubai.

46E08D6F00000578-0-image-a-17_1512165837186.jpg


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The former England manager has signed at deal at Goodison Park running until June 2019

‘The club, I think, wanted to give David Unsworth the job, first and foremost, before me and Silva. That’s how it is. I don’t worry. You can’t put all your eggs in one basket, do you know what I mean? You can’t say “I’m going to go for one manager and that’s it”. You have to see what is out there.’

It could not be said Evertonians were thrilled by the prospect of Allardyce succeeding Ronald Koeman and he is well aware he faces a challenge to turn public opinion. What was noticeable at USM Finch Farm, though, was a sense of calm had been restored after five weeks of turmoil.

Allardyce tried to remove some preconceptions about him, insisting he would stick to the club’s tradition and play youngsters from the Academy while deploy an attractive style. He was lavish in his praise of Wayne Rooney, while realistic about Ross Barkley, whose contract runs out in six months.

‘The first thing he needs to do is get fit,’ said Allardyce.

But what was most clear was his enthusiasm for the challenge. Deep down, he knew retirement was not right after he finished with Crystal Palace last summer and though Everton have been in a difficult position, this is not the kind of salvage act with which he has come to be associated.

46C7AE5600000578-0-image-a-15_1512165819448.jpg


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Allardyce hit back at the mention of Marco Silva and outlined his superior record as a manager

‘Our relationship and our success determines how long you stay as a manager,’ said Allardyce, who has been joined by Sammy Lee, Craig Shakespeare, head of performance Ryland Morgans and will soon have goalkeeper coach Martyn Margetson on board.

‘Contracts are important to start off with but we all live with the fact if you don’t get results then your job gets under threat. Five managers gone already? That’s a quarter of the Premier League managers gone after 14 games. If you don’ t get results, you don’t keep your job.

‘It is only the players who are going to get us out of trouble. Hopefully with the backroom staff’s guidance, we will give them the right tools to do that.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...ce-takes-swipe-Marco-Silva.html#ixzz503SLg944
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


I despise the man, but it's a pretty nasty question and one that's unsurprising he leathered back at the journalist.

We know they wanted to give it to Unsworth but it was not the right time at all. It looked like it was killing him physically.

I wanted Silva, but not for £20m or whatever Watford wanted.
 

I find it arrogant and actually irrelevant. Get on with your job and stop making it even harder for us to get behind you.

He's not bothered mate, he's creating the siege mentality.

Unsworth was battered when the fans lost confidence in him, it was destroying him, and it was a grim period where no one was safe (Ferguson getting abuse, Moshiri getting called a 'f*in disgrace' live on a Sky broadcast entering the Park End entrance etc etc).

Now, we aim our dislike entirely at one man who is more than used to it. Good ploy.
 
He's not bothered mate, he's creating the siege mentality.

Unsworth was battered when the fans lost confidence in him, it was destroying him, and it was a grim period where no one was safe (Ferguson getting abuse, Moshiri getting called a 'f*in disgrace' live on a Sky broadcast entering the Park End entrance etc etc).

Now, we aim our dislike entirely at one man who is more than used to it. Good ploy.
like the ending of the dark knight, 'we'll hunt him, because he can take it'
 
No I don't think they would. It is going to be pretty unpalatable fare for a little while and there is a dangling of a "big name" to come in. 18 month deal is so crucial here; any more and they risked a very public revolt from the fans, any less and it's what hamstrung Unsworth, the players know the boss is only weeks away from going anyway so let's piss about.

I also genuinely don't think he wants 18 months more in the game. This is ideal; it is probably at least twice what he has earned per year in other jobs, possibly even four times, plus he'll have bonuses and his final year paid off for what amounts to the least pressured job going. He hasn't got to try and get Borini playing at this club, or Davies, or similar; he needs to keep fit and motivated a player capable of scoring 58 yard first time strikes.

People don't need to come round, I don't think. That's the massive upside of Lee / Allardyce / Walsh axis of evil; it's channeled focussed anger. Not raging at everything as we were until recently when people were asking for every Evertonian on the coaching staff to be sacked!
You don't think people will come round? The very same people who genuinely would have lynched Rooney the first time he came back to Goodison
One of the most unenthusiastic announcements and reveals I have ever seen- from both sides
I quite liked the fact he was not announced as the new messiah. Every time a team signs a manager or player you would think the world was suddenly changed for the better and peace had broken out in the middle east. The constant egotistical showmanship in this league gets on my nerves.
How long is it since we've had a manager with as good a record as Sam?
Who cares about the manager? Results are what matter. We used to focus upon players and now the media have this personality cult about everyone in the game. Genuine personalities like Shankly and Clough got attention. Ferguson due to long term success. Bob Paisley, Catterick, Kendall etc. did a superb job but never courted the media. I don't care who he is. My mind will reflect our results. Great if we win, sod off if we don't.
 

Heres the context.

Sam Allardyce got on the front foot immediately as he started his reign as Everton manager with a withering putdown of Marco Silva.

The 63-year-old looked at ease at USM Finch Farm on Friday, describing the task he has been given as arguably the biggest of his club career and stating his ambition to stay beyond the end of a contract that runs until June 2019.

Farhad Moshiri, Everton’s major shareholder, returned to Allardyce after Watford rejected a £10million offer for Silva, who has received significant praise since he arrived in England for his work at Hull and Vicarage Road.

46E08D0700000578-0-image-a-16_1512165834113.jpg


+3
Sam Allardyce has defended his record as a manager and put himself above other candidates

The theory is that Allardyce will leave Everton next summer and the Portuguese – who will then have no release clause – will be appointed.

But when that issue was raised with the former England manager, he dismantled the claims of Silva while seizing the opportunity to firmly state his own abilities – and why it grates that his critics are quick to pigeonhole his style.

‘Let’s put it this way,’ said Allardyce. If you look at my track record, why wouldn’t I be here irrespective of Marco Silva? I have every respect for Marco Silva and I am not criticising Marco Silva but Marco Silva’s track record has got no comparison whatsoever with mine.

‘He got Hull City relegated (last season). That is perception. We have not to live in perception at our level. We have to live in reality and the reality is that I was spoken to. I pulled out and then I came back in because they felt it was the right thing to do.

‘I don’t know what went on before with Marco Silva whether he was before me, after me or in between me. All I know is they (Moshiri and dealmaker Keith Harris) came for me and I said “yes”. I said “yes” when I was on holiday in Dubai.

46E08D6F00000578-0-image-a-17_1512165837186.jpg


+3
The former England manager has signed at deal at Goodison Park running until June 2019

‘The club, I think, wanted to give David Unsworth the job, first and foremost, before me and Silva. That’s how it is. I don’t worry. You can’t put all your eggs in one basket, do you know what I mean? You can’t say “I’m going to go for one manager and that’s it”. You have to see what is out there.’

It could not be said Evertonians were thrilled by the prospect of Allardyce succeeding Ronald Koeman and he is well aware he faces a challenge to turn public opinion. What was noticeable at USM Finch Farm, though, was a sense of calm had been restored after five weeks of turmoil.

Allardyce tried to remove some preconceptions about him, insisting he would stick to the club’s tradition and play youngsters from the Academy while deploy an attractive style. He was lavish in his praise of Wayne Rooney, while realistic about Ross Barkley, whose contract runs out in six months.

‘The first thing he needs to do is get fit,’ said Allardyce.

But what was most clear was his enthusiasm for the challenge. Deep down, he knew retirement was not right after he finished with Crystal Palace last summer and though Everton have been in a difficult position, this is not the kind of salvage act with which he has come to be associated.

46C7AE5600000578-0-image-a-15_1512165819448.jpg


+3
Allardyce hit back at the mention of Marco Silva and outlined his superior record as a manager

‘Our relationship and our success determines how long you stay as a manager,’ said Allardyce, who has been joined by Sammy Lee, Craig Shakespeare, head of performance Ryland Morgans and will soon have goalkeeper coach Martyn Margetson on board.

‘Contracts are important to start off with but we all live with the fact if you don’t get results then your job gets under threat. Five managers gone already? That’s a quarter of the Premier League managers gone after 14 games. If you don’ t get results, you don’t keep your job.

‘It is only the players who are going to get us out of trouble. Hopefully with the backroom staff’s guidance, we will give them the right tools to do that.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...ce-takes-swipe-Marco-Silva.html#ixzz503SLg944
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Don't disagree with a thing he's said there. Clear from the presser he is up for this job, hopefully he can show he's a good manager and can get the squad playing decent football in time.
 

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