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2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked


Toffe3m4n said:
Mate nothing I said was even remotely controversial :lol: go back and just read the posts again..

I think some are just so blind in their hatred of Dyche that they don't want to hear any balanced opinions at all.

I'll reiterate once more - I don't care whether he stays or goes, there's arguments for both. I'm just contributing to the discussion with what was a pretty harmless opinion backed up with some readily available sentiment. Dunno why you lot get so worked up over this fella :lol:
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Because you’re using complete guess work about what may have happened had dyche not been sacked, making wild statements about Jackson and his Burnley looking completely hopeless and dyche may have won 3 or 4 of the last 8. Jackson got 1.4 points per games and dyche 0.8 per game. But crack
On dream up what nonsense you want that he would have turned it around.

I do have hatred for Dyche because he’s a terrible mananger and I want better for my team, but you’re the opposite and obviously rate the guy as a good mananger, well enjoy his final few games 👍
 
nonstripdzebra said:
I think if they fire Dyche that all but guarantees TFG solely making the appointee as I dont think theyll empower or value Thelwell's input. I think that sets an extremely dangerous precedent in regards to TFG's tenure of overruling any director. I think hiring a manager before a DoF is all but doomed to fail, especially when factoring the amount of additions needed in the summer.

In the hypothetical they do fire Dyche it will be on grounds of relegation fears. That means the rationale in a new appointee will be predominantly survival. I think that points to a crop of managers not all that dissimilar than Dyche but because newly appointed will likely dictate maybe the most crucial summer at Everton in a decade.

People can frame the fears of Dyche staying being relegation, but they have to simultaneously acknowledge the inverse risks. Firing Dyche while this club has no backroom model or strategy, no longterm DoF and a looming transformational summer simply on the numbers of players they'll have to bring in is unequivocally a massive risk as well.

Which one is more worrisome is fair to debate, but I personally think safety is far more viable than a new appointee in the current context not being disastrous for all the above mentioned reasons. That said relegation would also be disastrous so welcome to Everton Friedkins.
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Then they have to sack him too, or his role is pointless.
 
nonstripdzebra said:
I think if they fire Dyche that all but guarantees TFG solely making the appointee as I dont think theyll empower or value Thelwell's input. I think that sets an extremely dangerous precedent in regards to TFG's tenure of overruling any director. I think hiring a manager before a DoF is all but doomed to fail, especially when factoring the amount of additions needed in the summer.

In the hypothetical they do fire Dyche it will be on grounds of relegation fears. That means the rationale in a new appointee will be predominantly survival. I think that points to a crop of managers not all that dissimilar than Dyche but because newly appointed will likely dictate maybe the most crucial summer at Everton in a decade.

People can frame the fears of Dyche staying being relegation, but they have to simultaneously acknowledge the inverse risks. Firing Dyche while this club has no backroom model or strategy, no longterm DoF and a looming transformational summer simply on the numbers of players they'll have to bring in is unequivocally a massive risk as well.

Which one is more worrisome is fair to debate, but I personally think safety is far more viable than a new appointee in the current context not being disastrous for all the above mentioned reasons. That said relegation would also be disastrous so welcome to Everton Friedkins.
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If Thellwell wants him to stay get rid of him also, paying 20m for a 4th choice cb given our position is a sackable offence anyway
 
I was happy Dyche joined and think he did a great job to the end of last season.

Even at the start of this season I was in favour of keeping him based on record at EFC to date (two relegation escapes) esp given the squad and all the other goings on. He has provided continuity during the BK / Moshiri debacle.

I felt worried early season this time around. Pre Season was a jumble, the terrible mistakes at GP vs Bournemouth and dropping points vs Villa, Saints and Leicester. We could be waaay comfier. It's not unacceptable or even a failure that the AWFUL last two seasons at board-level have run their course and left the team stagnating. It's entirely understandable it's now gone wrong for him, but I'm wondering if he's about to lose the squad and we ship silly points before end of Feb when we could stop the rot now.

That would be unacceptable.

This is a very fine call to make right now.
 

blueboy72 said:
Because you’re using complete guess work about what may have happened had dyche not been sacked, making wild statements about Jackson and his Burnley looking completely hopeless and dyche may have won 3 or 4 of the last 8. Jackson got 1.4 points per games and dyche 0.8 per game. But crack
On dream up what nonsense you want that he would have turned it around.

I do have hatred for Dyche because he’s a terrible mananger and I want better for my team, but you’re the opposite and obviously rate the guy as a good mananger, well enjoy his final few games 👍
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Haha christ on an effing bike! :lol:

I'm not allowed to speculate on an internet forum, but you're allowed to fly off the handle at me because you admittedly hate the subject of the matter? gotcha.

You clearly are too wound up to even coherently read & respond properly to my posts based on that last sentence, so you do you chief ha 👍
 

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