2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Davideeyore]

I have not seen one person put any genuine reason for having Moyes back, we really need to move on when we hit BMD and look towards a new era. Maybe its just me but I don't understand this need from fans to turn the clock back all the time its seriously tiresome.

I have. Plenty have. IMO Moyes will help steady things, calm the club down. Whereas Dyche just seems to be inflaming it both with his comments and his game management. I think he's run out of ideas. Moyes will get us safe and I think help push us up the league for someone better in the long term. Moyes isn't the long term obviously he will restore some credibility on the pitch and off it from a manager perspective. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but putting new manager's in to this show is a recipe for disaster. Moyes has good credentials. He certainly knocks the socks off Dyche. If anyone thinks keeping Dyche or A N Other manager can sort this show out, be my guest.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Did he ever have a single offer or even heavily linked with anyone in all those years at Burnley?

Do you know that he didn’t?


I know a lot on here hate Dyche to the point they’ve lost most of their critical faculties but the contract he has isn’t my opinion, it’s the resultant fact of the negotiation

Now we can assume that Everton, who have no money, just went to him out of the blue ‘do you want this ludicrously high contract?’

Or

They probably had a series of negotiations between Thelwell and Dyche’s agent which presumably ended up with them meeting some where in the middle of what Everton wanted and what Dyche wanted for the risk profile of the job. Considering the size of the salary I’d say Dyche won that negotiation as he was in the stronger position. Everton were desperate, you’d have to be a moron to think we weren’t at that time.

But sure we can all imagine that Everton started at that ridiculously high salary and Dyche who is an unemployable bum who has never had a so how job offer in his career just received it and accepted it immediately. Yeah that does fit the agenda better actually so let’s pretend that‘s not even just probable but is actually the only version of the truth.

 

[Delargeinho]

Turned West Ham down.

Ok, didn't know

 

[Runub]

The career points per game in the Premier League for Dyche tells you all you need to know. If he returns an average ppg total, for him, in a season you will likely stay up but without much wriggle room. If he has a below average season there is a decent chance you will get relegated. Can’t see much future in this tightrope walking.

 

[windymiller]

Yeah you’re exactly right.

Sean Dyche who promoted Burnley and took them to Europe couldn’t get a single job in the entire football pyramid.

Then out the blue Everton rang him and said ‘do you want a contract making you one of the highest paid managers in the league’

I’m sure that’s exactly how it went, you are spot on, as usual.

Weird, given the amazing credentials that you pointed out, that he was unemployed for so long. I'm sure once he realises that his talents are wasted on us ungrateful Evertonians he'll go straight into his next job, probably at Camp Nou.

 

[Delargeinho]

The career points per game in the Premier League for Dyche tells you all you need to know. If he returns an average ppg total, for him, in a season you will likely stay up but without much wriggle room. If he has a below average season there is a decent chance you will get relegated. Can’t see much future in this tightrope walking.

He never made advertising himself to go to a big (currently successful club), which now more and more shows why, especially in 2024. And he trained relegation fodder Burnley and Everton in one of the worst period of the club history. So there's coming together what comes together.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Weird, given the amazing credentials that you pointed out, that he was unemployed for so long. I'm sure once he realises that his talents are wasted on us ungrateful Evertonians he'll go straight into his next job, probably at Camp Nou.

Yeah those 9 months were massive, absolutely huge. Weird how when we were inundated with top managers queueing up to take on the job we decided instead to for an unemployed bum. It’s almost like that’s not what happened.

 

[blueboy72]

Wales under Bellamy putting a lie to the theory that a new manager can't get crap players to play decent football.

It's just that the dinosaur is too blinkered and lazy ( BTW I'm not suggesting that Everton appoint Craig Bellamy )

Yes but Lampard tried it and look what happened and yet the same people will say Lampard is the worst manager we’ve ever had

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Yeah those 9 months were massive, absolutely huge. Weird how when we were inundated with top managers queueing up to take on the job we decided instead to for an unemployed bum. It’s almost like that’s not what happened.

Actually it is what happened .
Bum , irrelevant club employs bum , irrelevant coach .
It was and is a match made in Hell.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Yeah those 9 months were massive, absolutely huge. Weird how when we were inundated with top managers queueing up to take on the job we decided instead to for an unemployed bum. It’s almost like that’s not what happened.

Do you know that he didn’t?

You can't play the "don't know it didn't happen" card to suit one side of an argument. Who knows what happened behind the scenes that the media haven't embellished.

 

[blueboy72]

Yeah those 9 months were massive, absolutely huge. Weird how when we were inundated with top managers queueing up to take on the job we decided instead to for an unemployed bum. It’s almost like that’s not what happened.

Moshiri wanted Beilsa, who would have got the job if he wanted. Thelwell wanted Corberan and bill and Denise wanted dyche, again the choices are just a joke bar Corberan and shows how poor we were run. Loads of managers available and we end up with dyche.

 

[Delargeinho]

Weird, given the amazing credentials that you pointed out, that he was unemployed for so long. I'm sure once he realises that his talents are wasted on us ungrateful Evertonians he'll go straight into his next job, probably at Camp Nou.

Bielsa was even longer unemployed by then. But wouldn't fit Everton 01/2023, he would better 09/2024 than Dyche.

And we talk about one of the highest rated managers by other top managers like Pep, Poch or Simeone.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Aha, the Nu-Wolfpac active in this thread I see.

Careful folks, their malign tentacles get everywhere, including up Dyche's backside.

 

[Neiler]

Do you know that he didn’t?


I know a lot on here hate Dyche to the point they’ve lost most of their critical faculties but the contract he has isn’t my opinion, it’s the resultant fact of the negotiation

Now we can assume that Everton, who have no money, just went to him out of the blue ‘do you want this ludicrously high contract?’

Or

They probably had a series of negotiations between Thelwell and Dyche’s agent which presumably ended up with them meeting some where in the middle of what Everton wanted and what Dyche wanted for the risk profile of the job. Considering the size of the salary I’d say Dyche won that negotiation as he was in the stronger position. Everton were desperate, you’d have to be a moron to think we weren’t at that time.

But sure we can all imagine that Everton started at that ridiculously high salary and Dyche who is an unemployable bum who has never had a so how job offer in his career just received it and accepted it immediately. Yeah that does fit the agenda better actually so let’s pretend that‘s not even just probable but is actually the only version of the truth.

I’d say the contract if true, is a result of no one wanting to work here mate, if there were candidates banging down your door, no way the club would have agreed to that clause and we had to throw money at it to get a deal over the line.

It also explaines the zany clause Bielsa wanted about kicking back for six months and working with the U21s.

 

[MisterJ]

Aha, the Nu-Wolfpac active in this thread I see.

Careful folks, their malign tentacles get everywhere, including up Dyche's backside.

Where has the WCW reference come from?