2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[GrandOldTeam]

Read the article before. Zero quotes or even mention of anyone on the board

Aye.

If people could please make effort to post sources and not the engagement farming aggregators;

Sean Dyche: Everton continue to back manager following Carabao Cup loss to Southampton on penalties

Sean Dyche has the full backing of Everton following the loss to Southampton; Saints progressed into the Carabao Cup fourth round with a win on penalties; Dyche had credit in the bank before defeats to Aston Villa and Southampton

www.skysports.com

 

[ToffeeTim]

Why

 

[Marius57]

Aye.

If people could please make effort to post sources and not the engagement farming aggregators;

Sean Dyche: Everton continue to back manager following Carabao Cup loss to Southampton on penalties

Sean Dyche has the full backing of Everton following the loss to Southampton; Saints progressed into the Carabao Cup fourth round with a win on penalties; Dyche had credit in the bank before defeats to Aston Villa and Southampton

www.skysports.com

Even Sky sports don’t have any sources in the article. It’s all just ramblings based off nothing.

 

[Eggs]

Read the article before. Zero quotes or even mention of anyone on the board.

Just that dyche supposedly has credit in the bank with Moshiri for keeping us up. But they don’t explain how they know this.

….from what I heard last season (confidentially via here), Dyche is almost having to run the whole show so it’s not surprising there’s no board and no quotes.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Even Sky sports don’t have any sources in the article. It’s all just ramblings based off nothing.

Exactly but at least people can then see that.

 

[Mozza1987]

…as I say, replacing Beto for Ndiaye is the moot point but it should not negate from the need for Young to come on at LB.

I’m not a fan of making 3 changes when one will do, so Ndiaye replacing Beto, Young replacing McNeil and McNeil moving to no10 was complicated. Young for McNeil was crying out to happen.

I agree mate. I think the frustration was probably because he was taking our only striker off in that change.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

….from what I heard last season (confidentially via here), Dyche is almost having to run the whole show so it’s not surprising there’s no board and no quotes.

It's also in their interest to keep him for now.

He takes all the flak.

Very little said about things like, not having a bean spent on the club in 3 years.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I don't think there are many 'Dyche fans' out there for what it's worth. He's personally unpopular and his style of football is horrible. There are definitely people who view our situation more pragmatically than the Dyche Out side though, there's no doubt about that.

I wonder how many of the ‘pragmatists’ actually attend the games week in and week out ?
And have to sit through the atrocious football on offer ?
Last night was a total waste of my time with no redeeming factor. For something that was meant to be a diversion from the grind of daily life , it failed abysmally and had done every game but 2 since Dyche arrived .
I would have been happier staying on at work for no extra money at least I would have saved the ticket price and cost of public transport that’s £30 in my back pocket.
If we have to endure another season of this third rate manager perhaps we should demand a ‘Dyche Refund’ for the failure of the club to provide the football in match that it claims to.

 

[efcste97]

….its a bit of a nonsense point you make, you make it sound like Young replaced Beto up front.

If you watched the game you’d sure have noticed how we were increasingly open on our defensive left side. McNeil was poor against Cornet in the first half but he may as well not been there in the 2nd, they were walking through him. Dyche had to replace McNeil and Young’s introduction certainly improved us defensively.

Hopefully you noticed Ndiaye was the one who replaced Beto as central striker. An attacking axis of Ndiaye, Lindstrom, McNeil and Harrison finished the game. The type of players posters have been calling on Dyche to play, hardly conforming to hoofball. There is a discussion whether we’d have been better had Beto remained on the pitch but the replacement of Young at LB was clearly needed.

Regardless of all the ante-Young furor, I’ve not heard anybody suggest a better back-up LB option available to Dyche. He shouldn’t be near the side but sadly he’s the best Dyche has, the contrast was clear with McNeil last night.

Perhaps it’s more to do with recruitment than Dyche and Young.

He subbed off our only striker for Young? Am I missing something here? What’s so nonsensical about that? If you thought I meant he replaced Beto up front, then I’m not sure what to tell you. Jumping to conclusions seems unnecessary; almost everyone, except you, thought it was a strange substitution, the tactics didn't change once Beto come off, we where still going long. Does he deserve praise for having 'An attacking axis of Ndiaye, Lindstrom, McNeil and Harrison on the pitch? Is that how down bad we are? Simply having players on the pitch warrants a pat on the back?


Was it necessary to re-sign Young after a overall below average season last year? Who's decision was it to re-sign him?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

He subbed off our only striker for Young? Am I missing something here?

To allow him to push NDiaye upfront.

We didn't have any other striker.

Because, Beto... well. This is what you recently said about Beto last month;

Beto up top on his own in this dreadful system Dyche plays makes no sense.

And I agree.

Was it necessary to re-sign Young after a overall below average season last year? Who's decision was it to re-sign him?

Says it all really, doesn't it?

A squad that's been circling the drain for 3 years, has had 0 investment.

 

[Eidean]

It’s got worse over time & that obviously gets managers the sack (or should).

He had us high up the pitch, pressing and playing on the front foot. I’m sure there was a statistic about high turnovers in the final third. He’s stopped playing that for ages now & resorted to playing everyone in their own half.

I had no problem last year with being set up like that, didn’t have the players for it & our back 4 were superb. However he’s got better players in there now (NDiaye, Lindstrom, arguably TimmyTim is better on the ball aswell) & won’t adapt.

Only ends up one way that I’m afraid. BIN.

 

[neil999]

The issue wasn't taking off beto it was playing the same way when we took beto off, with beto on he was sort of creating chances by accident through at least occupying a defender with his strength and height and the ball bouncing off him

 

[efcste97]

To allow him to push NDiaye upfront.

We didn't have any other striker.

Because, Beto... well. This is what you recently said about Beto last month;



And I agree.



Says it all really, doesn't it?

A squad that's been circling the drain for 3 years, has had 0 investment.

Like I said, the system Dyche plays makes no sense, hoofing it up to Ndiaye makes even less sense.

 

[Mrtallywacker]

Dyche has clearly lost the plot, his actions are costing points every week now.

Dyche has lost the greater percentage of fans I believe

Dyche I fear is loosing the players too.

There's only one answer.......

2 year contract extension?

God bless.

 

[Marius57]

He subbed off our only striker for Young? Am I missing something here? What’s so nonsensical about that? If you thought I meant he replaced Beto up front, then I’m not sure what to tell you. Jumping to conclusions seems unnecessary; almost everyone, except you, thought it was a strange substitution, the tactics didn't change once Beto come off, we where still going long. Does he deserve praise for having 'An attacking axis of Ndiaye, Lindstrom, McNeil and Harrison on the pitch? Is that how down bad we are? Simply having players on the pitch warrants a pat on the back?


Was it necessary to re-sign Young after an overall below average season last year? Who's decision was it to re-sign him?

The sub is fine if he also changes the tactics. To continue playing in the same way with a front line of essentially 4 small, slight wingers is the issue.