2022/23 Sean Dyche

[Eggsyblueskin]

Yes, I thing we needed biesla excitement to galvanised the fans, that might have gave us a chance

Yes whatever else he would have galvanised us and maybe replicated last season.
Cant see it happening to the same degree this time round ( I think it would be the same had we still had Lampard)
At some point the manager and players have to do the job they are extremely well paid for.
And that starts against Arsenal.
Or we’ll chase them all out of the club, the whole rotten lot!

 

[MisterJ]

So we're writing him off before he even starts then?

Not going to give him the opportunity to show what he can do with a bigger side and budget then at Burnley?

 

[Simon Buttle]

I think it's going to fail spectacularly. We know what he's going to try to do but that's a bad thing because we also know it isn't so different from what Frank has already been doing. Now maybe he can simply do it better and that would possibly end up fine. There's a really defined ceiling on this style though and even hitting it might not net enough points.

It turns to failure for me because I think the players will not respond to it. I just don't think when 3 weeks in they realize they aren't actually getting better coaching they'll be in the right spot mentally to get the job done. Frank had been playing the work hard, stick together card for his entire tenure. It's not going to still play.

You are judging a manager on what he did at one job with highly limited resources. Are you going to apply that logic to EVERY manager in future? Lot's of managers have one bad job on their CV. I think you are being incredibly naive here and showing a total lack of knowledge/judgement.

 

[buededw1]

Old Stone must be on the juice, looks more like Stone Cold Steve Austin than Dyche does.

 

[helpimonfire]

So we're writing him off before he even starts then?

Not going to give him the opportunity to show what he can do with a bigger side and budget then at Burnley?

This!

What is the point in moaning about him? He is here now and we need to try and stay up. Get behind him

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Assuming we get a striker or two in, here's the difference between sticking with Lampard and going with Dyche:

Lampard would have got us relegated in all likelihood, because although we'd pick up more points with any decent attacker(s) FL had us playing slowly and with a bewildering lack of identity; Dyche will get us more points because we'll have attackers in and because he's got a definite way of operating, he'll pick up the tempo and that will be stamped on this team in a matter of weeks - and the fans will go for what he's trying to do and get right behind him ad the team.

I've been saying this and somethong similar for the past 2 or 3 days: if I'm a supporter of B'mout, S'ton, Leeds, West Ham, Wolves, Leicester tonight I'd be concerned that Everton had made a decision to get realistic about where they are and a manager who can build on that realism.

If I’m a fan of the clubs you mention , I’m made up that a rubbish club has just appointed a rubbish twice relegated manager to save them and is clearly struggling to sign any player at all , let alone one with any quality.

 

[hallamblue]

I think if we get a big lump up front and hoof it we stand a pretty good chance of staying up, simply because hardly any team plays like that at the moment. Brentford are very direct at times and a lot of teams can't cope with it. Similarly Fulham knock it long to Mitrovic a fair bit. If we can find a decent target man and start putting pressure on the opposition in their third of the pitch with the crowd behind us we still have a chance.

 

[preposterousvelios]

We've tried every manager under the sun. We need to get back to basics

Back to basics? This is the best league in the world. Back to basics stopped being anywhere near good enough years ago.

And we really haven't tried every manager under the sun, in fact of the managers we have tried after moyes (except Carlo who is an obvious anomaly) there's literally 1 that has been a success at another club. All the rest other than Silva have failed spectacularly everywhere they've gone.

 

[cooperman]

I wanted someone other than Bielsa and Dyche... Polar opposites with some flaws.

But on reflection I think it's the sensible appointment. The fireworks of bielsa could've caused even more agro.

Our attacking problems come down to a lack of system that the players know from what I've seen. Players didn't know what to do because they weren't being coached properly.

Two up front might work, but not with what we have. We definitely need another striker, someone with a bit of pace to drop back between the lines when not in possession. Also to run onto DCLs headers as we're probably going to see a lot of that.

Our defence is ok. We have some quality in the middle. Need better quality on the wings than what we have.

 

[LeeCarsley]

I will support him and give him time as I do all Everton managers. From some of my Burnley supporting friends views he is an absolute miracle worker. Worth noting that in his time at Burnley he never had a budget higher than the bottom 3. He can turn straw into gold on occasion. Now that he is here I hope he smashes it and in a few months we are all laughing that any of us thought he wouldn't be a raging success.

 

[dublinbluenose]

One thing I'd say about us is we are predictable and easy to set up against. So are Dyche teams. He will have a small window in which to come up with a new approach to get us winning games. Not losing games wont be enough, we need W's.

 

[chopper6]

I think it's going to fail spectacularly. We know what he's going to try to do but that's a bad thing because we also know it isn't so different from what Frank has already been doing. Now maybe he can simply do it better and that would possibly end up fine. There's a really defined ceiling on this style though and even hitting it might not net enough points.

It turns to failure for me because I think the players will not respond to it. I just don't think when 3 weeks in they realize they aren't actually getting better coaching they'll be in the right spot mentally to get the job done. Frank had been playing the work hard, stick together card for his entire tenure. It's not going to still play.

Dyche wasn’t my first choice initially and that’s despite my old man being employed by Dyche when at Burnley! (I’ll not tell him I said this ?)

Where you are way off the mark is saying he’ll just do what Lampard was doing. Not a chance!

Totally different managers and Lampard showed a lot of naivety with his tactics & shape that Dyche would not.

And that’s from a professional (the old man) who is an opposition analyst!

It quite possibly won’t be pretty, and it may be too little too late, but there’s no way Tarkowski will be sliding in to rash challenges on the byline in a LB position (vs West Ham) which led to goal, if Dyche had been in charge.

That’s just one example of horrifically bad shape/ defending in transition from Lampard

 

[windymiller]

We were only relegated once under Sean. He will keep Everton up without a doubt. He will ensure every one of your players puts a shift and fight for the shirt. Time for all Everton fans to get behind him and the team. As he said to us many times, 'We go again' and you will. He will get a result against Arsenal. In Sean you trust.

Only because you sacked him before the second time.

 

[YoboCopter]

Not a follicle on their head between them.

That hair transplant company that sponser us will be licking there lips

 

[windymiller]

Walk before we can run mate. If he builds a foundation back to us being a solid premier league outfit, I don't care what the style is.

Majority of Moyes' 10 years was terrible football bar the last 4 or 5 seasons when he brought in some quality.

"Fans won't have it" is complete nonsense. Fans want 3 points and pride when they see the team. Playing fancy football is secondary.

What if he brings bad football and very few points? What will the fans "have" then? Not that it matters, Kenwright and Moshiri have nothing but scorn for the fans anyway.