2022/23 Sean Dyche

[TheBigIguana]

Sean Dyche saves us from this muck he's a shoe in for Southgate when it's time. They tried with the gravy boat, Dyche maybe close enough to the unrealised dream that it'd tickle the fancy of a few at FA HQ...

He's not. Terrible idea. I doubt he'll even be considered.

 

[Ian]

So, do we take a leaf out of moshiri’s book and put our next 2 games down to expected defeats.

Yeah, probably. ?

 

[TheBigIguana]

So what do you remember about his upside when we hired a young moyes in 2002?

This can't be a real question. If we had hired Dyche in 2016 this might be something worth discussing but if you're truly asking "why did Moyes have higher potential in 2002 than Dyche now?" I don't really feel the need to get into it. There's a whole decade of Dyche showing what he is! Moyes had more upside by default. Moyes has more upside now!

 

[Marius57]

This can't be a real question. If we had hired Dyche in 2016 this might be something worth discussing but if you're truly asking "why did Moyes have higher potential in 2002 than Dyche now?" I don't really feel the need to get into it. There's a whole decade of Dyche showing what he is! Moyes had more upside by default. Moyes has more upside now!

So what was his upside?

You can’t just repeat he had upside without saying what his upside is. Especially when you had likely never heard of him in 2002

 

[TheBigIguana]

So what was his upside?

You can’t just repeat he had upside without saying what his upside is. Especially when you had likely never heard of him in 2002

I was 7 in 2002 mate. His upside was that he had a short career where he'd done a good job and could maybe take a step up. Dyche has a long career at this level. Why is he stepping up?

Hiring the guy from West Brom would be similar to hiring Moyes.

 

[DualityNSNO]

This can't be a real question. If we had hired Dyche in 2016 this might be something worth discussing but if you're truly asking "why did Moyes have higher potential in 2002 than Dyche now?" I don't really feel the need to get into it. There's a whole decade of Dyche showing what he is! Moyes had more upside by default. Moyes has more upside now!

What the actual f?

 

[Ian]

Nah. For the birds that.

If a decision was made that we couldn't replace him then we had his contract and he'd have played.

I think he'd have done more harm than good if he started sulking and knowing he'd be off in the summer whatever. He'd have been a terrible influence. Priority is team mentality, cohesiveness, fighting for each other, giving it all. That requires 100% buy-in from everyone and he wasn't going to get that from Gordon.
I don't care he's gone. He offered nothing this season.

 

[PhilM]

I personally think we have enough to stay up and any other outcome is a failure. I still cannot believe we didn’t sack lampard post Bournemouth, especially since dyche was fecking available. Utterly incomprehensible

I'm in this camp. It is definitely going to be difficult, especially as many favourable home fixtures have been played, but there are eighteen games left.

We're six points from 13th and with a few favourable results we could be 16th; admittedly, the next two fixtures aren't favourable and would worsen the situation.

But, it's not over yet. What we've got to do is get points on the board sooner rather than later, and Dyche has to get a tune out of the front line.

If we do go down, however, I think it'll be fair to give Dyche quite a fair bit of mitigation because the situation he has inherited isn't favourable, at all.

More so with the lack of signings!

 

[Marius57]

I was 7 in 2002 mate. His upside was that he had a short career where he'd done a good job and could maybe take a step up. Dyche has a long career at this level. Why is he stepping up?

Hiring the guy from West Brom would be similar to hiring Moyes.

You are funny you

 

[TheBigIguana]

You are funny you

Nah I'm just not huffing the hope glue on a guy who has made it very clear what he is and is not and where that can and cannot go.

 

[Ian]

Wonder which 2 players didn't fill out the Dyche questionnaire ??

That's two of them obviously don't care. Interesting that he revealed that, I think. He didn't have to.

 

[Blueclouds]

That's two of them obviously don't care. Interesting that he revealed that, I think. He didn't have to.

Yeah. Hopefully he knows who

 

[John BCN]

Are we sure it was definitely a written questionnaire cos I'm sure he mentioned something about having an open air chat with the players about these same points.
Like a 'no holds barred' meeting, where everyone has a clean slate so you honestly give your views about the whole situation without any consequences. Just a fresh start.

I think there was an anonymous questionnaire followed by an open session on the points that came out of the answers to the questionnaire.

 

[Ian]

Yeah. Hopefully he knows who

Good point - yeah I hope he knows.

 

[davek]

I think he'd have done more harm than good if he started sulking and knowing he'd be off in the summer whatever. He'd have been a terrible influence. Priority is team mentality, cohesiveness, fighting for each other, giving it all. That requires 100% buy-in from everyone and he wasn't going to get that from Gordon.
I don't care he's gone. He offered nothing this season.

The club has a massive say in how these departures are framed.