2022/23 Sean Dyche

[DavidH]

Er sorry but I quoted a fact from the horse's mouth. You are speculating, I presume, based on no experience of professional football. At a time of such mental fragility in young players in a pressure cooker situation it is unforgivable to not control all the events that you can control when you are a manager. Any manager in any walk of life manages risk and this buffoon was AWOL at an absolutely crucial time.

Sorry mate but you clearly have zero experience dealing with a dressing room at any level. Or managing people properly. Sometimes things have to give.

 

[matty1878]

He should play DCL, Simms, Maupay, & Gray up front. Just go all Cambridge and get Pickford to launch it all game, missing out the midfield. Can't be any worse than what we're seeing at the minute.

lol

 

[matty1878]

NO

lol
he does

 

[Bluelladevil]

Sorry mate but you clearly have zero experience dealing with a dressing room at any level. Or managing people properly. Sometimes things have to give.

Sorry mate - but we've all played football, amateur football that is with absolutely zero pressure. This is professional football and we are about to get relegated and players were under the greatest pressure imaginable after the Newcastle game. Dyche is apparently paid £95,000 per week to manage, not to sit in another room whilst the players turn on each other. But me "managing people properly" ? Presumably your comments relate to life outside sport which is an odd personal comment but I can assure you that a manager would be disciplined in any workplace if in a catastrophically damaging moment for people under their charge they sat next door and listened whilst a situation took place where employees suffered bullying aggressive behaviour. Grievances would likely follow and disciplinary action against those involved. But if you are a manager or manager of a professional football club then let us know.

 

[Gilbert..]

Headbutt a few of them on monday.

 

[blueboy72]

He was handed a stacked deck of cards, when he took over.

An overated goalkeeper.

A porous defence.

A ponderous , non creative, non goal scoring midfield.

Basically no recognised or worhwhile forwards.

I think he is now starting to panic, tinkering, playing people out of position, and late, non effective substitutions.

A team bereft of fighters, leaders, and quality.

Can't see us getting out of this.

I don’t think he’s tinkering. Midfield has been the same baring the suspense and Onana’s injury. Same 2 CB’s Myko has played every game bar one I think. And McNeil and iwobi out wide

 

[Streetender1878]

If colemans fit i would like to see patterson given a go on the right of a 5 man midfield. He will run all day and can put a decent ball in. He will also help his fullback out. We need to win away from home.Iwobi and mcneill have done nothing and they switch off leaving our fullbacks exposed.Bring gray back on the left. He has to do something different now.

 

[Moomin]

Sorry mate - but we've all played football, amateur football that is with absolutely zero pressure. This is professional football and we are about to get relegated and players were under the greatest pressure imaginable after the Newcastle game. Dyche is apparently paid £95,000 per week to manage, not to sit in another room whilst the players turn on each other. But me "managing people properly" ? Presumably your comments relate to life outside sport which is an odd personal comment but I can assure you that a manager would be disciplined in any workplace if in a catastrophically damaging moment for people under their charge they sat next door and listened whilst a situation took place where employees suffered bullying aggressive behaviour. Grievances would likely follow and disciplinary action against those involved. But if you are a manager or manager of a professional football club then let us know.

Have you actually played Football?

 

[Bluelladevil]

Err yes

 

[DavidH]

Sorry mate - but we've all played football, amateur football that is with absolutely zero pressure. This is professional football and we are about to get relegated and players were under the greatest pressure imaginable after the Newcastle game. Dyche is apparently paid £95,000 per week to manage, not to sit in another room whilst the players turn on each other. But me "managing people properly" ? Presumably your comments relate to life outside sport which is an odd personal comment but I can assure you that a manager would be disciplined in any workplace if in a catastrophically damaging moment for people under their charge they sat next door and listened whilst a situation took place where employees suffered bullying aggressive behaviour. Grievances would likely follow and disciplinary action against those involved. But if you are a manager or manager of a professional football club then let us know.

Have a word with yourself mate. You don't even know what happened.

 

[Brennan]

Even you are saying the players had a "snarl between themselves". And that is all that is relevant here but you insist on ignoring that fact and the potential damage it may have done. How can it have been beneficial to the mentality of young men under incredible pressure to have a "snarl between themselves". It could and should have been avoided by Dyche controlling the situation. The fact that he then trundles into the dressing room is not the issue - the damage, i.e the unity of the squad and potential harm to to the confidence of individuals, may already have been done. And if any damage has been done, in what is already an awful situation, it is simply not acceptable. A manager should manage pivotal moments and that was undoubtedly a pivotal moment in the life of Everton football club.

You’re wrong to look at it in such a black and white way.

There was a good example of this hands off style in the Spurs documentary when Mourinho was there.

Lloris and Son kicking off at each other, carried on from the pitch into the changing room. Once they’ve vented their spleen and squared up to each other he then starts his talk. They went on to win that game, against us as it happens. They were hugging as they walked off.

There’s nothing wrong in letting a team, football or other business have heated/frank discussion amongst themselves on occasion. Management can be as much about knowing when not to get involved as when to get involved.

 

[Bluelladevil]

Have a word with yourself mate. You don't even know what happened.

3 hours ago on this thread you said you were on your fourth pint. May I suggest you heed your own advice.
And the only thing we do know is "Speaking after the game, Dyche said he had spent little time in the dressing room in the immediate aftermath of the match. Instead, he said, having heard several of his players addressing their team-mates from his office at the ground, he believed it appropriate to let them do the talking."

 

[Bluelladevil]

You’re wrong to look at it in such a black and white way.

There was a good example of this hands off style in the Spurs documentary when Mourinho was there.

Lloris and Son kicking off at each other, carried on from the pitch into the changing room. Once they’ve vented their spleen and squared up to each other he then starts his talk. They went on to win that game, against us as it happens. They were hugging as they walked off.

There’s nothing wrong in letting a team, football or other business have heated/frank discussion amongst themselves on occasion. Management can be as much about knowing when not to get involved as when to get involved.

Never watched the documentary. But we were slaughtered 4 - 1 at home, second from bottom and some individuals had been absolutely humiliated on the pitch. A spat between Son and Lloris at half time is very different to that situation.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Sorry mate - but we've all played football, amateur football that is with absolutely zero pressure. This is professional football and we are about to get relegated and players were under the greatest pressure imaginable after the Newcastle game. Dyche is apparently paid £95,000 per week to manage, not to sit in another room whilst the players turn on each other. But me "managing people properly" ? Presumably your comments relate to life outside sport which is an odd personal comment but I can assure you that a manager would be disciplined in any workplace if in a catastrophically damaging moment for people under their charge they sat next door and listened whilst a situation took place where employees suffered bullying aggressive behaviour. Grievances would likely follow and disciplinary action against those involved. But if you are a manager or manager of a professional football club then let us know.

He will have done it so that he can listen to where the players think they went wrong to see if it compares to where he thinks they went wrong I imagine, it not unusual.

 

[DavidH]

3 hours ago on this thread you said you were on your fourth pint. May I suggest you heed your own advice.
And the only thing we do know is "Speaking after the game, Dyche said he had spent little time in the dressing room in the immediate aftermath of the match. Instead, he said, having heard several of his players addressing their team-mates from his office at the ground, he believed it appropriate to let them do the talking."

Like I said earlier, you clearly don't know anything about managing a group of people.